what the best make of .22Lr
- Thread starter Kyler
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IMHO...If you're looking at a new gun, unaltered I would pick the CZ 452/3 etc..if interested in a bolt gun. If interested in a semi, I'd take the T/C r-55 or whatever, if i wanted a semi, and wanted to alter it, naturally the Ruger 10/22 would be my pick.
I have a CZ 452-2E ZKM. It's the best I've ever had, accurate, well built. I like the heavy barrel in a .22LR.
In a semi, I have a Rem 597 also heavy barrel. Accurate, but requires too much maintenance. I'd take a 10/22 over it.
The CZ is hands down the winner.
In a semi, I have a Rem 597 also heavy barrel. Accurate, but requires too much maintenance. I'd take a 10/22 over it.
The CZ is hands down the winner.
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Ruger 10/22(best all around) or 77/22 if you have to have a bolt action.
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Marlin 39A lever. Solid, dependable, accurate, and waaaaay cool. Why I don't own one is a mystery to me.
Ben X 2.. The CZ 452/453 (bolt action) usually shoot well out of the box...inspect the factory target before you buy and pick one with a decent group.
The TC R55 is probably one of the most accurate semi's out of the box. They used to have a lifetime warranty.
The TC R55 is probably one of the most accurate semi's out of the box. They used to have a lifetime warranty.
Pudelpointer
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I vote CZ as well.
Best value for money out there IMO, there is a new one out with a set trigger.
Best value for money out there IMO, there is a new one out with a set trigger.
I have been hesitant to post on this thread as I am not sure about availability in Canada, but here goes.
First up I shall point out that prior to becoming a Professional Trapper I shot rabbits for two and a half years for a livelihood, so my opinions on this particular subject are very much set in stone.....seventeen years of Professional meat shooting will do that to you.
Since you have posted on a hunting section of the site I shall take it that you are interested primarily in head shooting small game for food or destruction, and since you have not stated that you are leaning towards a semi then I have to believe that you are interested in a bolt action.
If you are after accuracy only then a Kimber or an Anshultz will fit the criteria, but if you are after longevity, ease of use, the ability to drop ten rounds into a fifteen millimeter(not seven) circle at fifty yards and something that you can leave to your grandchild knowing that it works perfectly.....then I would suggest that you kick a few bushes and wait for a 1958 Brno Model 5 to drop out, or at the very least a late '50's sportsman's Model 2 (heavy stock).
I am of the firm opinion that the Brno .22lr's made in the late fifties are the best that Brno produced.
A '60-'73 is acceptable, an after '74 has a plastic magazine well and the rear of the bolt projects a tad longer so that one needs to use a tool to push in the plunger so as to strip the bolt, also Brno removed the plunger from the sear and substituted a ball-bearing.
In the '80's Brno removed the Plunger that held the bolt in place in the action....and that alone sucks !
The modern Brno's that I have seen have the ejector at the rear of the magazine well made with a sharp square face which tears the cleaning rods to pieces, particularly plastic coated varieties.
The down sides are that quite a few of the earlier Brno .22lr's had the bolt face cut a tad too high which allowed the spent case to ride back across the ejector at the rear of the magazine well, however all is not lost as this is an easy fix, simply remove the magazine well, both the exterior section and the internal piece that the bolt rides on, cut a piece of paper to suit and insert between the internal section and the bottom of the receiver, this has the facility of raising the static ejector in the receiver and ensuring that the spent case is ejected.
A handy feature of the Model 5 and the Model 1 is the under barrel stud under the rear sight can be drifted across in the dovetail and be used to adjust the barrel in the barrel channel prior to bedding the rifle.
Another appealing feature on the Model 5 is that the foresight band has an internal diameter slightly in excess of .5" which allows those who may legally do so, to cut a .5" SAE thread so as to fit an accessory, whilst maintaining the original foresight assembly by simply moving the assembly back along the barrel when cutting the thread, the Model two on the other hand has an internal diameter of slightly less than .5", which means the removal of the entire foresight....or putting up with a really lousy job.
Another item of interest is the steel magazine bases that the earlier Brno's have, in the case of the five shot from the Models 1 and 5 this is a thin piece of spring steel, in the case of some of the early Model 2 five shot magazines and all of the early ten shot magazines the magazine bases are a very nice cast steel piece which allows the use of the plunger to service the magazine internals...handy in dusty conditions.
The earlier Brno mount dovetails are somewhat wider than the present Models, but suitable bases are available.
Avoid the Model 1's as most of them have a trigger that can be set off by pushing forward...this is bloody well dangerous !
Also I have found that the overall quality is not as good on the Model 1's....but hey, what would I know, after all I have only owned and shot 37 early Brno .22lr's in Models 1, 2, 4, 5.
These are my observations/opinions......albiet biased, one-eyed and unrepentant.
Ps, the VAST majority of Professional rabbit shooters in Australia used early Brno .22lr's...for a reason !
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Pudelpointer
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- Lethbridge, Alberta
J, all I can say is wow. That is the most detailed discussion of BRNO 22's I have ever seen. Well done.
Ian
Ian
Kyler,I don't think any .22 you choose could be a wrong one.As you can see on this sight most guys have a favorite and most have one or two they hate.Personally I am a Ruger 10-22,Ruger 96 fan but I own several more from lever guns to bolt action and break action.I have given some to my kids with strict instructions that if they ever get the urge to sell them I will buy them.(I don't think they would ever do that.Would they?). I have sold or traded too many to keep track of over the last 40 odd years.You can listen to the guys here,they are mostly good fellows but as far as picking a gun goes it is up to you to decide. Test drive a few. Stay away from the cheap stuff and if all else fails...."""""BUY A RUGER"""""".....
Homesteader
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I really like my older sako, believe it is a model P72. My buddy has one of the newer P94s, shoots just as goood, but not as well made. Anshutz is probably the best shooter on average followed closely by the older Brno's. There are lots as you see, but the best bang for the buck will be one of the older high end ones. I heard some of the older Kimbers didn't shoot so hot, but never saw one first hand so take it for what it's worth.
Good luck.
Good luck.
My pick (and my next rifle to buy) would be the CZ. Although i have yet to own one, i have shot a couple at the range, and i`m definately impressed. I do own a Savage 22lr with accutrigger and i like it a lot, but it really doesn`t compare. I should have bought the CZ to begin with, but in my opinion, you can never own to many rifles anyways. 
