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LeeEnfieldNo.4_mk1

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OK, so i just finished a "poor mans sniper" project using an old bubba's Longbranch with a neutered barrel and chopped stock. I took it to the range yesterday and sighted in the scope, and It shot better then expected. Around 1" groups at 100 yards. The only thing I did not like was the scope was a little far back, so i moved it forward about 1/2".

I also noticed I forgot to tighten the rear trigger guard screw, so I took the front trigger guard screw off, tightened the rear, and put in back on.

I took it to the range today to re-sight in the scope since it was moved, and the groups were awful. I barely got 4" and 100 yards, after getting agitated and running out of ammo I decided to head out.

My question is, could tightening those two trigger guard screws through the bedding off that much? I suspect I was just having a bad day, but the thought that I messed up the bedding is their. I am going to go back tomorrow and try again, and see if I was just having a bad day.
 
Same ammo?

An improperly fitted trigger guard can affect trigger pull (therefore accuracy too). Also, if the trigger guard is being "pulled" upward when the king screw (front trigger guard screw) is being tightened, this can probably affect the forend bedding since it'll put pressure on the forend between the rear trigger guard screw and the king screw. This is all speculative of course, so I hope someone else chimes in...

Lou
 
From the work with my Enfield the other week, it seems like you had the same problem as me, just in reverse order! I would check the manual online as to proper bedding and barell placement in the stock (ie is it touching one side of the stock etc...)
 
I'm not sure where i saw this info, but someone told a guy with a No 4 that if his groups were suffering he should just back off the screw (the one that was loose on your no 4) and it might help get a better group. I think it was on surplus rifle.com.
 
I did some tuning to where the trigger guard inserts, and I sanded a little along the barrel channel, also I took off a bit off the shims. I just got back to the range and it seemed to have improved a little. there were three shots within 1", but then things went south. I think a might have adjusted the scope out of tune, but the groups when I did not adjust it are still wide compared to the greatness they were yesterday.

I might try again tomorrow, maybe a cooler head will make my shots close in a little. I am also going to try sighting in from scratch at 25 yards and work up to 100y just to make sure the scope is out of tune. I also found the barrel was slightly pressing against the right at the muzzle so i will try to fix that too.
 
Ryan500 said:
I'm not sure where i saw this info, but someone told a guy with a No 4 that if his groups were suffering he should just back off the screw (the one that was loose on your no 4) and it might help get a better group. I think it was on surplus rifle.com.
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i would like to hear more info on this from others guys .......thanks
 
I was just tinkering with it in the basement and found some wear marks on the front hand guard. It looks like when I tightened the barrel bands, they pushed the rear of the hand guard into the barrel causing the barrel to press to the right. I sanded then down and it seems better, but only a trip to the range can be sure. Seeing if the hand guards are clear is not easy, for me anyways.
 
LeeEnfieldNo.4_mk1 said:
OK, so i just finished a "poor mans sniper" project using an old bubba's Longbranch with a neutered barrel and chopped stock. I took it to the range yesterday and sighted in the scope, and It shot better then expected. Around 1" groups at 100 yards. The only thing I did not like was the scope was a little far back, so i moved it forward about 1/2".

I also noticed I forgot to tighten the rear trigger guard screw, so I took the front trigger guard screw off, tightened the rear, and put in back on.

I took it to the range today to re-sight in the scope since it was moved, and the groups were awful. I barely got 4" and 100 yards, after getting agitated and running out of ammo I decided to head out.

My question is, could tightening those two trigger guard screws through the bedding off that much? I suspect I was just having a bad day, but the thought that I messed up the bedding is their. I am going to go back tomorrow and try again, and see if I was just having a bad day.
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Pics? :)
 
shortandlong said:
i would like to hear more info on this from others guys .......thanks
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I know it sounds pretty dumb, i believe that backing off the screw a little would be a bandaid for something else. I'll try to dig up the thread i saw that in tonight.

I'm pretty sure that torque on the actions screws has alot to do with accuracy, i've seen people who will adjust the screws a hair at a time to find how their rifle works best and make a note or mark to always have them done up the same way.

I know when my Mosin nagant action screws come loose it shoot like a peice of junk, when the are tight it's good, haven't found the right torque for them but i just got it about 60 rounds ago.
 
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