What to do if you're scoped?

[crazy_davey]

Deffending anyone who does not use firearms safely and or improperly seems like a strange position for anyone to take

Does anyone here look down the barrel of your rifle to see if it is loaded or not? I know I dont, why should anyone else have to either?

 

[Mr.4x4]

Its not rocket science is right. Wear some Orange, wave your arms while yelling WTF!!!, carry and use binoc's and dont crawl around on all fours

 

[bisonhd]

Wearing blaze orange can actually get you scoped! I'm glad we don't have to wear it in BC.

 

[Gatehouse]

Thats why i dont go to bc. they (non CGN's) cant drive let alone too many granola types.
plus anyone who's hiking in camo during hunting season .... darwin comes to mind

Sounds like you don't really understand....Nobody wears blaze in BC since it is not required or needed.

Since there is no reqirment that hikers wear blaze orange, wy shoudl hunters be required to wear it?

Blaze makes sense in some situations, but it is certainy not a complete answer, not to mention that it is completely impossible to enforce wearing it in many areas of BC.

 

[lupus]

Sounds like you don't really understand....Nobody wears blaze in BC since it is not required or needed.

Since there is no reqirment that hikers wear blaze orange, wy shoudl hunters be required to wear it?

Blaze makes sense in some situations, but it is certainy not a complete answer, not to mention that it is completely impossible to enforce wearing it in many areas of BC.

Yes I do understand, it seems your not catching my drift.you cant say nobody in bc wears it, im sure some people in BC do as well as you cant say its not needed. Take seatbelts for example, I dont care if you wear one or not because I am going to wear one, even though ive never had a serious crash ( knock wood ) you never know if it might happen and it may potentially save my life. I never said it should be law. people should wear what they want. Dressing up like a bear and going hunting im sure is legal somewhere, but who would do it if there is a greater chance of gettin shot. Once again im saying that it should be part of precaution to not getting scoped or shot. I find it hard to believe that wearing Blaze is goin to get you scoped, how many orange deer have you seen. I have been hiking most of my life and have never seen a person hiking in full camo, usually they have some other colors from the rainbow on.
If god forbid some guy is running around in the bush dressed in camo during hunting season and gets shot, it may have had a greater chance of not happening had he been wearing Orange.
If we can all agree not to use the dang scope to verify a target then were almost there.

 

[bisonhd]

People wearing Blaze Orange get shot! Hunters wearing Blaze orange riding a snowmobile get "accidentally shot". So why draw any attention to yourself by wearing blaze orange?

Scoping! We're not talking about someone swinging on a sudden movement in a thicket. We're talking about some irresponsible fool using their rifle scope as a telescope to check-out what/who that little thing (perhaps little orange thing) is over there.

Having been shot at, or in the general direction of twice while wearing red, I for one would now rather not be seen at all.

 

[troutseeker]

It's never a good thing. I'd wave my arms and act like a human (for once in my life...). As an aside I'd rather be scoped while hunting than while I'm working...

Troutseeker

 

['Boo]

What I'm saying is does he know for sure that he was scoping him or something in his vicinity. Does he know for sure that the other guy even knew he was there. In his original post he said he had to wave his arms to get his attention. If the other guy never knew he was there then he (Boo) was way off base for doing what he did.

You just don't get it do you?

Of course I am sure the guy was making a mistake when he scoped me with what I later found out was a rifle with a live cartridge up the pipe. If I had thought for a second that someone was INTENTIONALLY pointing a loaded rifle at me the outcome may have been far more drastic.

The impression I am getting from this thread is that most hunters understand using a rifle scope as a spotter is not only wrong it is being criminally irresponsible.

I have have noted with a bit of dismay that some posters seem to think that "mistakes" -even potentially deadly mistakes - are OK and even justifiable. How some here have received a PAL or POL without even learning the #1 rule on firearm handling - never point a gun at something you don't intend on shooting - is unbelievable.

I have also learned that a lot of people "look the other way" rather than getting personally involved. I know for a fact the guy I confronted had a real good chance to contemplate and learn from his mistake as he spent an hour or so looking for his rifle. I could go on but the whole subject of people "not getting involved" however deserves a whole thread of it's own.

 

[338 fan]

Deffending anyone who does not use firearms safely and or improperly seems like a strange position for anyone to take

Does anyone here look down the barrel of your rifle to see if it is loaded or not? I know I dont, why should anyone else have to either?

If that is intended at me-I wasn't defending anyone-just questioning his technice(sp). Other people here have been shot at and didn't do something as extreme. But whatever I'm done with this post. And by the way I have been scoped on more than 1 occasion-I simply had a stern heart to heart talk with the other fellow on firearm safety.

 

[Jamie]

I would have words with the fool.....not kind words


Jamie Barkwell

 

[338 fan]

[QUOTE='Boo]You just don't get it do you?

Of course I am sure the guy was making a mistake when he scoped me with what I later found out was a rifle with a live cartridge up the pipe. If I had thought for a second that someone was INTENTIONALLY pointing a loaded rifle at me the outcome may have been far more drastic.

The impression I am getting from this thread is that most hunters understand using a rifle scope as a spotter is not only wrong it is being criminally irresponsible.

I have have noted with a bit of dismay that some posters seem to think that "mistakes" -even potentially deadly mistakes - are OK and even justifiable. How some here have received a PAL or POL without even learning the #1 rule on firearm handling - never point a gun at something you don't intend on shooting - is unbelievable.

I have also learned that a lot of people "look the other way" rather than getting personally involved. I know for a fact the guy I confronted had a real good chance to contemplate and learn from his mistake as he spent an hour or so looking for his rifle. I could go on but the whole subject of people "not getting involved" however deserves a whole thread of it's own. [/QUOTE]



Nowhere did I say that it was ok to make this mistake. Your actions just seemed abit radical too me. But to each his own.

 

[black_bear]

I would fire a warning shot and, if they fire at me or do not take their scope off me, then I would fire at them - I'd rather be in jail than be dead.

 

[joe-nwt]

I find it hard to believe that wearing Blaze is goin to get you scoped, how many orange deer have you seen.

How many people have you seen that look like a deer or a moose? Yet people still get shot. The only way this can happen is if people pull the trigger on "a brown lump". Or "something moving" in the bush. For the life of me, I can't see how they call this an accident. After all, they hit the "brown lump" they were aiming at.

I would fire a warning shot and, if they fire at me or do not take their scope off me, then I would fire at them - I'd rather be in jail than be dead.

You better hope there is no game in your vicinity and you know 100% that he is aiming at you. You might feel a tad stupid in jail if you hear some crashing in the bush after you drop him.

 

[Mr.4x4]

This reminds me of that story 'bout that poor fella down in Virginia I think, anyways he walked accross the dirt road in full Blazen holy Orange suit and got shot... TWICE!!! Once in each leg. Now that is a dumb hunter... here's your sign

 

[eltorro]

Orange has never been a requiremnet in BC, and we don't seem to shoot each other that often...

It would be a waste of time, anyway, since -as pointed out- there are alolt of back country users that are not hunters....

You maybe ned to get out a bit and look around?

sometimes that very orange makes people think it is ok to shoot at everything that's brown or black... forgetting that not only hunters walk on earth. One recent accident in Ontario proved that. As for people shooting other wearing orange, that is just outrageus.... I didn't understand for a long time about the "no open mesh" and "no camouflage orange" policy, until I saw one in the woods.

The principle that stays behid the " grey zone" of using the scope as a binocular is... I have the safety on, or: I only do it when I don't have a round in the chamber, but the most used ones are:
- I don't put the crosshairs on the guy...
and
- I control my trigger finger, plus, he was just walking in my hunting area....

Too bad that from a nice weekend hunting one can get in jail for the most part of one's youth....

Ahhh and one more thing.... why in the hunting regulations (specially Ontario) there are 2-3 places where they specify what exactly constitutes an offence (loaded firearm on the vehicle being one) and they never ever stretch or at least mention the main cause of accidents .

Forget about the fines.... what about keeping everyone alive?