What use for a magnification over 20x?

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I see bunches of snipers rigs you guys have out there but never seem to have scopes with magnification over 20x

However they sell 6-24x and 10-40x scopes at marstar, what purpose would they serve? 1000yards shooting?

What if I'm shooting at 100-300 yards? I'd fancy having a 6-24x, they are pretty cheap, hell I'd even get me the 10-40x!

But then again I know in matter of scopes you pay for what you get... Are these scopes reliable?
 
high mag, what for ?

I have 2 scopes at 42X, I use em for detailled work. My targets aren't moving. One is for 1000 yd rifle, the other is on a short range piece that I use to try and slide numerous bullets through only one hole.

If your gonna shoot at something that intends to move you don't need the magnification, it actually hinders you because of the small field of view ( plus you could puke) and it makes finding the target that much harder in the first place.

If you check the scope manu. sites you,ll see some of the models advertised for ETF type work. They are mostly all low mag. stuff which gives you a wide field of view and easy accusition of the target.

M.
 
Ice-Pick said:
If you check the scope manu. sites you,ll see some of the models advertised for ETF type work. They are mostly all low mag. stuff which gives you a wide field of view and easy accusition of the target.

M.
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If i check the scope what?
 
I've got a 6-24x50 on my long range predator rifle. Past 200 yards I've got no problem with target aquisition on 24X. I keep it at 10X as a standard, and adjust from there as needed. Don't forget that a 6-24 still has 6x, and lots of guys have fixed 6x scopes for general purpose work - you don't need to run around on 24X - it's just there if you want it.
 
BC_Guy said:
The cheap 6-24/10-40 is just that, cheap. I'd take a pass.
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yeah but say im a cheap bastard... is it to reconsider? It would be for target, so no need of movement there
I like to see the target pretty sharply... what scope would you recommend for say around 100yards (its on the chinese m14)
 
If you want to shoot out to 1000 yards two words simply do not go together: cheap & glass! Just about any of the stock heavy barrel rifles offered by Remington, Tikka, Weatherby, etc...are capable 1000 yard rifles with minimal work...the key is the quality of glass you put on them. Unfortunately, when it comes to optics, you get what you pay for.
 
ben hunchak said:
Chinese gun...use a Chinese scope, they're made for each other.
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now thats the kind of on the field opinion i'm looking for hahaha

no seriously, i understand the scope is one of the most important component when it comes to precision shooting and i'm not shooting anywhere farther than 300yards
 
Well, I have a 6.5-20x50AO on my .22LR simply because having the higher magnification means I can actually see my groups out to 100 yards without having to constantly switch over to a spotting scope. One less thing to carry from the car to the bench.

With cheap scopes, even though some of them go up to 25x or 40x in maximum magnification, they are rarely clear enough above 14-18x to be of any use. They tend to look foggy in the higher magnification range.

I recently bought a Pentax scope from ebay (the seller shipped to Canada), and I have been very pleased with the brightness and clarity so far. I was told that it's basically a Burris Fullfield II with a different brand on it. It is made in China...but the quality is excellent. I paid $99 USD for my 3-9x40, and there are 4.5-14x on there for just over $140.
 
Northman999 said:
I've got a 6-24x50 on my long range predator rifle. Past 200 yards I've got no problem with target aquisition on 24X. I keep it at 10X as a standard, and adjust from there as needed. Don't forget that a 6-24 still has 6x, and lots of guys have fixed 6x scopes for general purpose work - you don't need to run around on 24X - it's just there if you want it.
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northman, it might just be me, but i have a 6.5-20x50 leupold and even at 300 yards the field of view on 20x is too narrow to quickly get back on target after recoil.
 
I have heard mostly good rumours about the Pentax, sub-contracting for Burris.

Rumour was, due to years of camera manufacturing, thier optical clarity was very good, if not excellent, but thier first few runs produced loose reticles in riflescopes.

I also heard this is no longer a problem with the Pentax series.
 
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Oh, wow, I was just reading the rest of the reply's,,,,,,,,,,,,, you looking for a good scope for a CHINESE M-4 ????
Why bother, move closer and throw rocks. If you but a good scope for this it,ll be worth more than the rifle.
 
Ice-Pick said:
Oh, wow, I was just reading the rest of the reply's,,,,,,,,,,,,, you looking for a good scope for a CHINESE M-4 ????
Why bother, move closer and throw rocks. If you but a good scope for this it,ll be worth more than the rifle.
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a good yet cheap :D
 
ben hunchak said:
Chinese gun...use a Chinese scope, they're made for each other.
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I would not nesessarily agree that an inexpensive rifle=poor performance on the target range. I have an older Polytech M-14S, purchased from Silverback here on CGN. We checked the chamber and it's headspace is near to one thou'.
Twice I have loaned it out for mid to long range matches. (400, 600 & 800 yard shoots)
Both times the rifle has proven to be very accurate with it's factory iron sights.
My personal experience. And I would guess there are other CGN members here, with positive results from thier Chinese M-14 copies.
Certainly it is not anything like an M40X. But for the price one can expect very good to excellent results at a service rifle match. And may account of itself very well at a TR shoot, for entry level, if it is made within spec'.
Of course, the shooter must be up to the task!

EDIT: Maybe my rifle is the exception to the rule?
 
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My M14 shot a buckshot pattern and I didn't have the inclination to waste time and money trying to make it into something it wasn't. That being said, lots of guys have put in the time and have great shooting M14s. I've heard that they're rough on scopes - something to think about if you-re thinking about a cheap scope. I'd save myself the trouble and mount the Bushnell 3200 10x. Seems to be the official scope of the M-305 cult.
 
BigUglyMan said:
My M14 shot a buckshot pattern and I didn't have the inclination to waste time and money trying to make it into something it wasn't. That being said, lots of guys have put in the time and have great shooting M14s. I've heard that they're rough on scopes - something to think about if you-re thinking about a cheap scope. I'd save myself the trouble and mount the Bushnell 3200 10x. Seems to be the official scope of the M-305 cult.
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Sorry to hear about the shotgun-like results!
By the way, if I do ever get the desire to scope mine, that ex-Israeli Army
6 x 40 scope, with be mounted on it.
 
yeah well in the end i supposed i'd go with the bushnell elite 3200 5-15x, i like good magnification, thats my problem
 
charles.emond said:
yeah but say im a cheap bastard... is it to reconsider? It would be for target, so no need of movement there
I like to see the target pretty sharply... what scope would you recommend for say around 100yards (its on the chinese m14)
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A 3-9 variable or fixed 4x or 6x would be a reasonaable choice for that setup.
 
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