What was M1 used for in service?

"The greatest battle instrument ever devised" Was issued in the millions to US soldiers during WWII. Also used in Korea.
 
svt-40 said:
And where did it see action?
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Quick go out and rent...........no I mean BUY the Band of Brothers box set, Saving Private Ryan and the longest day.

It will answer all your questions.

BTW.....if you want to head out to EESA you can try out my M1 Garand.

Cheers

( I can also hook you up with a M1 Carbine with a few days notice)

BTWl... The M1 Garand is really a MBR ( Main battle Rifle) or a Surplus not a Black Rifle...
 
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Surprising is the caliber... Essentially it is a pistol round, right? A bit underpowered and should lack stopping power. I am talking about M1 carbine. Kind of hard to choose a forum for it.
 
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Carbine was issued to second-line troops as a replacement for the 1911A1. Probably other specific services as well, like paratroopers. Was taken up by many in front-line service though.
 
Unregistered said:
Carbine was issued to second-line troops as a replacement for the 1911A1. Probably other specific services as well, like paratroopers. Was taken up by many in front-line service though.
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Yeah, originally intended for a pistol replacement. It ended up being WIDELY issued to Lieutenants serving at or near the front line, paratroopers, vehicle operators, tank crews, signal corps, and even some corporals and privates at the squad level during urban fighting.

Remember, against unarmored oponents, the .30 carbine round is more than adequate to kill. In fact, its performance is comparable to the .223 Remington we all know and love today. A man isn't that hard to kill compared to a deer or moose, it turns out.

Reports from Korea though were that there were penetration issues with north Korean heavy quilted winter jackets that reduced the lethality of the .30 carbine's wounding properties. That being said, the .45 pistol wouldn't fare any better IMHO. Most German/Japanese soldiers didn't wear heavily quilted nylon layered jackets either... especially in North Africa and on pacific islands.
 
remember they made 6 million + carbines in ww2 they saw LOTS of use

many say the m2 carbine was the 1st assault rifle...med power round in a small compact light rifle with the ability to select semi or fullauto the m2 was made in late 45 so they saw little if any use in ww2


aprox 2 million m1/m2 carbines (rumor) were given to the south vietamnese government for use by the arvn as m1 garands were too big and the m16 was in short supply

as for the m1 carbine not working to well in korea in summer was OK winter........ well the chinese troops had thick cotton coats my great uncle was a radio operator in the U.S army he ditched his carbine for a garand 1st chance he had
 
not to mention the first "enforcer' pistols which were used by station ops in nam- it was very popular amongst all types over there-then again, spooks could get anything they wanted, inc mac 10s and uzis
 
... The M1 Carbine (30Cal) fell somewhat short on performance, against Japanese snipers...largely due to range, and the fanatical mindset. The BIG pluses with the Troops were the large magazine capacity, short length and light weight of the carbine. The relatively low power of the cartridge allowed easy "snap shooting" and repeat shots. All in all, a very handy weapon ! ...David K.
 
They were issued to any soldier that had a job in which having the Garand would be a hastle, too big and heavy. For example, a platoon's radio operator had a Carbine. Engineers carried carbines. The mortar crew would have the Carbine. An NCO or an officer who had to carry maps and various organizational equiptment would likely have a Carbine.
It turned out to be used a lot more than it was intended for and the weapon it was designed to replace, the 1911-A1, well most people who carried a carbine also had one.
So in the end, it actually replaced nothing, just started a new breed of medium-powered, light-weight rifles. Helped out a lot of soldiers who already had enough equiptment to carry without the 10 pound M1 Garand on their shoulder.

Cheers,
Hans
 
Oddbawl said:
The M1 carbine rd has more energy at 50yd than a .357 magnum @ the muzzle.
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If you are comparing the carbine to a .357 mag pistol yeah....
Both in a carbine (18" barrel) and the .357 mag is a heavier hitter.
 
many veteran i had the chance to talk to said they really loved the carbine because of how fast they could lay multiple shoot on target compare to heavier recoling full power rifle
 
Hitzy said:
If you are comparing the carbine to a .357 mag pistol yeah....
Both in a carbine (18" barrel) and the .357 mag is a heavier hitter.
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I'm looking in the lyman book right now and both the .30 carb and the 357 mag (rifle loads) with a 20 inch barrel and 110 gr rn bullets have similar ballistics. I would say they are quite comparable.

I find the M1 to be my favourite plinker. It's accurate, easy to shoot and cheap to reload.

As for low power. IO was blasting through 4X4'' fence posts at 100yards just yesterday with no trouble. It's not totally underpowered.
 
... Bear in mind that for the Military application, they had to use a FMJ, with that the reputation for poor "stopping" was, almost, a foregone conclusion! David K.
 
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