What will happen if the "prescribed antiques" list gets reclassified?

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The criminal code defines antiques as either a non-rimfire/centerfire gun before 1898, or one on the "prescribed antiques" list.

Criminal Code - R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46 (Section 84)
84(1) Antique firearm means

(a) any firearm manufactured before 1898 that was not designed to discharge rim-fire or centre-fire ammunition and that has not been redesigned to discharge such ammunition, or

(b) any firearm that is prescribed to be an antique firearm; (arme à feu historique)
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The "prescribed antiques" list Regulations Prescribing Antique Firearms SOR/98-464 is where the exception for centerfire "no go" calibers comes from.
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-464/FullText.html


Since the regulations are just regulations, what happens if Carney OIC's it? The criminal code definition would require new legislation, but will it require anything beyond OIC to updated the prescribed antiques definitions?
 
Just an FYI, but the RCMP and anti-gun trolls monitor this site to try to find ammunition to use against the firearms community in debates. If you guys are watching, GO POUND SALT! Every realist knows that the useless and moronic anti gun legislation will result in massive non compliance just like it did with the AR's and AK's. Here's the really stupid thing that Liberals don't understand or don't care about. With this idiotic legislation in place, you create a whole new class of administrative criminals!!!
 
I am not really sure why you are making up hypothetical cases. Doesn't make any sense. If you are asking if your investment is safe and if you should spend thousands of dollars on an antique revolver? What is your reason for asking this question? And if you think that buying a 32 rimfire antique is a good idea, it is not, most of the still available cartridges won't fire and reloading often does not work.

https://rcmp.ca/en/firearms/classes-firearms/specific-types-firearms#s2
 
Regulations can be changed easily. The prescribed list can be modified without effort. The definition in the criminal code would require legislation.
 
Mike Webb said:
Be a lot of ugly gun owners out there. Paying 3 to 6k for handgun that's suddenly banned or turned into restricted category.
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Just like all the rest of the gun trade, shooters.
There was a banned gun at the range one time, no one's head exploded, strange.

Another case, beside the point, but in 2 cases lately, low life drug dealers with unregistered prohibited guns had the gun charges dropped and they made bond and are on home arrest, the justice system don't gave a damn, usally a few weeks in jail or house arrest.
 
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trebor2880 said:
True, but if things go south, where do you think they will start looking? Remember, you can't lie to the feds.
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Sure you can, you're just not supposed to. Funny how we're not supposed to lie to them but they have no problem whatsoever with lying to a judge in court. Perjury by any form of law enforcement in a court of law, if it can be proven without a doubt, should come with punishment that would make siberian gulag seem like all inclusive resort vacation down south.

Just use the same technique they do when they #### up, the case is falling appart, and they are being questioned about their transgressions, answer everything with "I don't recall".
 
lucky07 said:
Sure you can, you're just not supposed to. Funny how we're not supposed to lie to them but they have no problem whatsoever with lying to a judge in court. Perjury by any form of law enforcement in a court of law, if it can be proven without a doubt, should come with punishment that would make siberian gulag seem like all inclusive resort vacation down south.

Just use the same technique they do when they #### up, the case is falling appart, and they are being questioned about their transgressions, answer everything with "I don't recall".
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Lying after swearing on the Bible, never turns out well.
 
trebor2880 said:
True, but if things go south, where do you think they will start looking? Remember, you can't lie to the feds.
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According to the supreme court, in an investigation it is legal for LEO and investigators to lie to you, any information gathered is fully admissible. The only limits are "the use of deception cannot be so extreme that it shocks the community's conscience or makes the confession unreliable".

Rules for thee..
 
LawrenceN said:
Just an FYI, but the RCMP and anti-gun trolls monitor this site to try to find ammunition to use against the firearms community in debates. If you guys are watching, GO POUND SALT! Every realist knows that the useless and moronic anti gun legislation will result in massive non compliance just like it did with the AR's and AK's. Here's the really stupid thing that Liberals don't understand or don't care about. With this idiotic legislation in place, you create a whole new class of administrative criminals!!!
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It's called job security - they know exactly what they are doing.

And yes, LawrenceN is correct, they have used this site to showcase fringe response to idiotic changes to the law that will have 0 effect on the gangbangers shooting up our cities - smoke and mirros.

Cheers,
 
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