What would you choose .243 or 6mm

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What would be more accurate on average between the .243 and 6mm. According to my Lymans 48th it disses the 6mm and claims the .243 to be the better shoooter.
Any truth to that?? I have never shot a 6mm but I know the .243's I owned were by far the most accurate rifles I have owned.

Cheers!!
 
Basically no big accuracy difference but the 6mm Rem is a far superior case to reload. Give me a 6mm Rem over a .243 anyday.

That being said, if it is accuracy you want, consider 6mm BR over either a .243 or 6mm Rem.
 
In ;target shooting, the 6mm is more adapatable and you can load it
a little faster. a great 1000 yd rifle is a 6mm shooting 115 grn dtac's.
Can be shot in a 243 as well, but slightly easier for 6mm.

Agree, 6 BR is the nicest to shoot.
 
Thanks for the info guys. Im not trying to stir the pot here, serious question, if the 6mm is such a superier case why is it not chambered in alot of guns??

Cheers!!
 
The 6mm was originally called the 244 Rem which came out in 1955 the same year the 243 win was introduced. The 243 win is a necked down 308 and the 244 is a necked down 7x57. It was brought out in a 1-12 twist rate and didn't stabalize heavier slugs as well as the 243 which was and usually is a 1-10 twist better suited to the range of slugs available in that caliber so the 243 gained more popularity. In 1963 the 244 was renamed the 6mm remington and was available in a 1-9 twist and did everything the 243 did but faster. But it was a little too late and never recovered from the reputation of not handling the heavier slugs well. Overall it is a better more reloader friendly round and does everything the 243 does only better.
 
I think the .243 Win and 6mm Rem are both fine. However, the 6mm PPC USA is supposed to be one of the most accurate cartridges.....period!

If you really want good downrange accuracy (without excessive recoil) then consider a 6.5x.284 Win. Dave Brown at Sierra bullets recommended that cartridge to me a few years ago.

One of my friends even rebarrelled an AR-15 in 7.62x39mm to shoot the 6mm PPC. Apparently, it was still quite accurate based on that platform. He has a lot of experience at long range matches with the 6.5x.284 Win too.
 
My son shoots a 6.5/284, and i shoot a 6.5WSM and 6.5WSSM.
All are great cartridges, but thhe 6.5WSSM is the neatest of the bunch!

However, my 6BR Ruger No.1 is simply stunning!

It never ceases to amaze me at the longer ranges, I may just put one into an iron sighted match rifle!!
Cat
 
The 6mm PPC is the bee's knees for short range. There just isn't the room to stuff enough powder to toss the heavy slugs needed for longer range work. 6mm BR is probably the absolute smallest case I'd consider in a 6mm.

I happen to be a .243 fan, at least on paper, so far. I don't think the added case capacity of the 6mm Rem really adds much. It'd be different if we had lots of 6mm bullets that were in the 120-to-150 grain class.
 
I have never

owned a .243 AI and probably won't. I think that the need for more case capacity in a .243 or 6mm is not required to get the job done for long range out to 1000. The availability of quality components out there are many. Either case basically has enough capacity to push the heavier bullets that are available out to 1000. The larger cartridges are better but then you have to contend with more fore felt recoil. The 6.5X284 is a great LR cartridge but then we get into shorter barrel life with it.

My biggest decision on going to a 6BR was because of Dennis and the guys on some of the other boards. It can get the job done with the right twist, bullet, and powder combination. The thing that I liked is BARREL LIFE. It can almost do(very, very close) what a stock .243 does with about 10grs less power.

To many varmint hunters they may feel it may not have the explosive effect as a 220 Swift or 22-250 that most want but get it in the right twist, shoot light bullets and you are there with BETTER barrel life. The accuracy of the 6BR will run circles aroundthe Swift or 22-250.
 
There is precious little accuracy to be gained from a case shape. With todays assortment of powders, just about any case can be made to work.

What does vary a lot is chamber design. If you had the same shoulder to leade parameters as a 6BR and plopped that on a case from the BR through to the 6-06, they would all shoot very similarly (this assumes you can find a quality powder to work). The larger the case, the faster you will ultimately go. Also, the faster you will burn out your throat although new additives to powders might just change all of that.

Personally, I like the 243 case because brass is everywhere or can easily be made. Most factory cases will also handle alot of pressure without blowing out the primer pockets. Dies are also readily available.

For match shooting, I want the smallest case volume that will get the desired bullets to useable velocities. The 6Rem is a bit too big. In fact, the 243 is arguably too big as well although that is changing with heavy new bullets.

The 243AI has one strong advantage in that the cases will stretch less due to reduced body taper and sharp shoulder. The increase case capacity is likely unwarranted in a long barreled match rifle. For varminting. why not.

If you look at the 22/250 derived 6mm cases like the 6XC, and 6-6.5X47L (think a shortened 243AI), we find a near ideal case volume for bullets we currently can shoot with present powders. If someone comes up with a heavier bullet with higher BC, then the 243 will become the best choice.

For point blank shooting, the PPC pretty much rules the roost due in large part to being the ideal case volume to balance bullet weight and powder burn rates. The 6BR and all its various children are doing exceptionally well with heavier bullets better suited to distance shooting.

However, when winds start to blow, there is a distinct ADVANTAGE to larger bore heavier bullets simply due to the higher real world BC. 6.5 is well established and the 7mm is coming on strong.

Something else to think about.

Jerry
 
Hands down .243. Simple decision maker. Lapua brass. If you have to #### arround fireforming new brass all of the time, you will wear out the 6 rem barrel in half the time of a .243 shooting the same Lapua brass up to 15x.
But if you are building the rifle then 6br of coarse. But if you are building the rifle then how about the 6.5 x 47. Lapua brass for that now.
And for 1000 yds the 6.5 x 55. And ............................
 
6mm BR is a great workhorse precision cartridge capable of great things on its own, with almost nothing in the way of (lapua) case prep. There are numerous 1000 yard records that are held with the plain old 6BR. I take nothing away from the 6 and 6.5mm wildcats that can give you an added edge, but I love shooting more than I like loading and you can get incredible results without having to spend long hours forming, resizing and trimming brass.
 
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