What would you do as a reference to someone you think shouldn't own a firearm ?

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Hello everyone,
My friend has put me as a reference after completion of his Pal. The problem here is I really don't think he suitable to own any firearms. I am not necessarily saying he is a violent or an angry individual, but he does not respect the Canadian laws or culture. His home is frequented by "sketchy" people and my friend has a boastful/show off personality where he likes to post photos of him holding other peoples guns and posting it on facebook. For me he is just promoting himself to get his firearms stolen, and when I asked him what he would do if someone stole his firearms and an incident with said firearm was involved, He said "I don't care I would just buy insurance for gun". My other friend then asked him "so you don't care if some innocent person got shot with you're firearm?" and his reply was "Nope".
I know some people will say to me "he is your friend you can't say that about him as a reference". There was a time a when my friend and I went to a mall and another car arrived at an empty space roughly at the same time. The other driver was an old lady and I made hand gestures to let her take the spot. My friend opened the window and started yelling and swearing at this lady with no respect whatsoever telling her to "go blank urself, u stupid *itch mudaf*8**r.(*Note my niece was also in the car). I saw the rage he had other occasions as well.
Any thoughts on this?
Thanks in advance
 
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Some people should not own guns. Your friend sounds like one of them.
IMO it is your responsibility to put down exactly how you feel about this friend and
his attitudes. Be truthful.
 
Thanks Colin,
I am not familiar with the reference process and questions they will ask, but I will do the right thing. I already have both Pal & Rpal so I feel I should be responsible for my own actions but others as well.
 
I dunno, you sound too judgmental. I would decline to be a reference if called and also let him know why. I don't think pictures with guns on FB is a bad thing. I also don't think cussing people out is a bad thing either and that a person shouldn't be able to own guns because of it. Lots of angry people out there who own guns.

if somebody stole my guns, insurance would cover it as it would for most people on the forms. I don't advertise to the public that I have guns but FB is not public imo.
 
If you do not feel comfortable providing a reference ; then you should not have told your friend that you would .It is not ethical to agree to provide a reference , then throw the person under the bus....
 
Hey Templar knight
I agree it is unethical, but the conversation I had with him was after the fact.
I should have been more specific but my friend doesn't have many close friends if any at all. What if he had someone else as a reference (Which is unlikely) and got his pal and something was to happen?
I am in health care and I take other peoples lives seriously and couldn't live with myself if something were to happen.
As stated in my post, his house is frequented by sketchy individuals who I myself personality would never let step foot on my front door let alone house.
 
I am not a judgemental person at all . I just stated facts which I thought were appropriate to post on a website so I obviously didn't put every detail pertaining to this friend for many reasons. I get where you are coming from but saying cussing people,posting gun photos on facebook is not a bad thing is subjective. For my friends respect of privacy is why I have not listed other worst things I've seen him done which I think was wrong and a disregard for human life.
 
I am not really wanting to debate so I will agree to disagree. You sound a little sheltered to me so sketchy to you could be somebody who doesn't shave everyday, I have no idea.
 
Like I said before I am not willing to elaborate on the term "sketchy" or any other things for the sake of his privacy.
I have been in Canada for most of my life and my friend hasn't, he still lives by the rules from back home where a life is not worth anything. If you don't think there's nothing wrong with yelling at an old lady in the manner that he did after I already gave her the spot with my niece in the car maybe you're standards of etiquette differ from mine. And if you had any common sense you would know in general no one is going to spill their guts out on a public forum about their friend and most likely my post would be diluted a bit.
 
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Did he ask for your consent to use you as a reference beforehand? If not, then if you are called for information, decline to answer any questions.

It sounds like you should drop him as a friend also.
 
Did he ask you if he could use you as a reference? If he didn't I would simply decline the call from the CFO. If he did ask you and you said yes... well I would probably also decline the call from the CFO bc based on what you have said about him, if true, he doesn't sound mature enough to own firearms. They won't tell him why it wasn't approved... or will they? Honestly I'm not sure what you should do.... but I do know one thing; I probably consider slowly moving away from hanging out with him and being his friend... just my two cents.
 
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I'd say that you need to do 2 things. Stop hanging around with this guy as he sounds like a dik. He will either get you in trouble sometime, or lower peoples opinion of you due to association with a known dik. The second thing you need to do is to let the CFC know that this guy is too shady/immature to own something we all take seriously. That is the route I'd go. I have rid my life of all "shady" influences. Hard to swim across a lake with a dead weight on your back.
 
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They might not even call you, and his license(s) will be issued anyway.
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This. I was called for one application, but two others I've been a reference on never called. If you are truely concerned (and it sounds like you should be) then maybe call the CFO ahead of time, don't wait for them to call you.

Oh, and if he has no other options for a reference, what does that day about him??
 
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