What year is Webley MK2 with serial 293**?
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WELL there ALL Perscribed Antiques ALL made Before 1898!
They dont list the exact year that a certin Ser # was made.
Unless it was a Comerical model and in some retailers book.
Anyway its PRE 1898 thats what ya really wanted to know right?
They dont list the exact year that a certin Ser # was made.
Unless it was a Comerical model and in some retailers book.
Anyway its PRE 1898 thats what ya really wanted to know right?
We just Know 
CFC has told me on several occasions that ALL MKIIs are Pre 1898.
In the Book the Webley story they say the same thing.
CFC say only the frist 1000 or so MKIIIs are pre 1898 so if even one MKIII is Antique all MKIIs must be eh!
If your gona get into Antique Webleys get the Webley Story by Dowell
Dixie gun works has them for like $45 well worth the money.
CFC uses this book for refrence
CFC has told me on several occasions that ALL MKIIs are Pre 1898.
In the Book the Webley story they say the same thing.
CFC say only the frist 1000 or so MKIIIs are pre 1898 so if even one MKIII is Antique all MKIIs must be eh!
If your gona get into Antique Webleys get the Webley Story by Dowell
Dixie gun works has them for like $45 well worth the money.
CFC uses this book for refrence
Check the FRT all mkIIs are antique. As for what year I usually hold my hand over them, hum an ah-ha sound and the date magically appears. That is about as good as your gona get.
It wont shoot any better or worse for the range of dates possble. Buy it and enjoy it. If it helps I had one in the 59### range.
It wont shoot any better or worse for the range of dates possble. Buy it and enjoy it. If it helps I had one in the 59### range.
Okay, when my wife will go over me with a dough roller, I'll tell her that you two told me to buy it LOL.
One last question: if a handgun is antique, the barrel length does not apply, does it? I.e. an antique cannot be a prohib if I am not mistaken. Correct me if I am wrong.
One last question: if a handgun is antique, the barrel length does not apply, does it? I.e. an antique cannot be a prohib if I am not mistaken. Correct me if I am wrong.
Your right no barrel length restrictions.
Now as for the wife. She has no reason for complaint. Some women don't understand the difference between 'consumer goods' purchases which are gone money and good quality antiques which are invested money. You can get your money back from antiques you can't from cars, TVs, clothes etc.
My wife is a financial prude but never once has worried about many thousands of dollars spent on antiques. She sees as much money come in as going out and is smart enough to realize my toys cost us nothing in the end. She does cringe about scopes, black rifle accessories etc etc, but antique in very good condition to her just represent forced savings!
Get the mkII, until you find soemthing better!
One option for you is to get her a nice little antique purse gun. Something pretty, shiney, cute etc.
Now as for the wife. She has no reason for complaint. Some women don't understand the difference between 'consumer goods' purchases which are gone money and good quality antiques which are invested money. You can get your money back from antiques you can't from cars, TVs, clothes etc.
My wife is a financial prude but never once has worried about many thousands of dollars spent on antiques. She sees as much money come in as going out and is smart enough to realize my toys cost us nothing in the end. She does cringe about scopes, black rifle accessories etc etc, but antique in very good condition to her just represent forced savings!
Get the mkII, until you find soemthing better!
One option for you is to get her a nice little antique purse gun. Something pretty, shiney, cute etc.
Wife was mentioned purely for laughs, she never actually said anything about my bilge purchasing - guns, reloading, ammo, guns again... And I like the purse idea - she loves purses! Thx.
Now to the bad news: the guy in the US refuses to sell me the gun. Sort of - he claims it is a firearm and only ships it to an FFL dealer, which means export permit and ####. He believes the MK2 were made for WW1, i.e. 1914-1918 year of manufacture. What can I do about it?
Now to the bad news: the guy in the US refuses to sell me the gun. Sort of - he claims it is a firearm and only ships it to an FFL dealer, which means export permit and ####. He believes the MK2 were made for WW1, i.e. 1914-1918 year of manufacture. What can I do about it?
One out is to get questar (banner above) or some other USA FFL holder recieve it and redirect it to you. Or if he is reasonable to deal with send him refrence material.
Hey I have an even better idea a new purse and a new gun for your lovely lady!
Hey I have an even better idea a new purse and a new gun for your lovely lady!
svt-40 said:
Nothing! Hes got it under FFL so it must go to another FFL holder
Well or as David says use Questar!
But ya gota have a restricted Licence then ya gota apply to have it Deregisterd.
Unless Questar is doing Deregistrations now to.
Ive run into the I wont ship to Canada alot.
Being polite and explaining it all works maby 1 times outa 10
Id find another guy to buy off him.
For every one Bad American i find twenty that are Ex to deal with.
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svt-40 said:
RICs and Bull Dogs are solid frame Webleys, and some, but not all of these are antique here in Kanukistan. By and large if they are marked "W&S" on the frame...not WS... and the caliber is ok they are still antiques.
Hope this helps rather than confuses.
The Webley and Sons trademark (one of them) was a winged mini ball with a hollow base. When they changed to Webley and Scott, this became a winged solid base bullet. It should be located on the left side of the frame, just ahead of the cylinder, and can be used for dating the gun. The winged hollow based mini is a pre 1898 trademark.
cheers mooncoon
cheers mooncoon
svt:
If the picture you just posted is the revolver you have been talking about, it explains everything! That is neither a Webley nor an Enfield. Rather, it appears to be a Smith & Wesson 2nd Model Hand Ejector (sometimes referred to as the "Double Lock") although it has had American Model 1917-style grips installed on it ....
Such S&W revolvers were acquired by both Britain and Canada in very considerable quantities during WWI, chambered in .455 Webley. In British War Department terminology, it was referred to as "Pistol, Smith & Wesson, .455 inch, with 6.5" barrel, Mark II (Land)". The "Mark I" Smith & Wesson was the earlier 1st Model Hand Ejector (also called the Triple Lock).
FWIW, here are pictures scanned from "Revolvers of the British Services, 1854-1954" -
S&W 2nd Model Hand Ejector/Double Lock (British S&W Mark II) -
S&W 1st Model Hand Ejector/Triple Lock (British S&W Mark I) -
If the picture you just posted is the revolver you have been talking about, it explains everything! That is neither a Webley nor an Enfield. Rather, it appears to be a Smith & Wesson 2nd Model Hand Ejector (sometimes referred to as the "Double Lock") although it has had American Model 1917-style grips installed on it ....
Such S&W revolvers were acquired by both Britain and Canada in very considerable quantities during WWI, chambered in .455 Webley. In British War Department terminology, it was referred to as "Pistol, Smith & Wesson, .455 inch, with 6.5" barrel, Mark II (Land)". The "Mark I" Smith & Wesson was the earlier 1st Model Hand Ejector (also called the Triple Lock).
FWIW, here are pictures scanned from "Revolvers of the British Services, 1854-1954" -
S&W 2nd Model Hand Ejector/Double Lock (British S&W Mark II) -
S&W 1st Model Hand Ejector/Triple Lock (British S&W Mark I) -
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SVT:
To answer your original question, even though I don't have immediate access to general S&W serial number data, I can say with reasonable certainty that #29*** on this model of revolver signifies production in 1915. My own Canadian-contract .455 2nd Model Hand Ejector (#33169) was shipped by S&W to the Canadian Government on December 24, 1915, according to the "history letter" I got from the S&W official historian, Roy Jinks ...
(The above images aren't showing up as pictures for me , but as links ... and I have no idea why, since they are included in my message with the correct image codes .... )
To answer your original question, even though I don't have immediate access to general S&W serial number data, I can say with reasonable certainty that #29*** on this model of revolver signifies production in 1915. My own Canadian-contract .455 2nd Model Hand Ejector (#33169) was shipped by S&W to the Canadian Government on December 24, 1915, according to the "history letter" I got from the S&W official historian, Roy Jinks ...
(The above images aren't showing up as pictures for me , but as links ... and I have no idea why, since they are included in my message with the correct image codes ....
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