Whats it worth? 2 No4 Enfields

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greyman441

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I am looking at putting some guns up for sale and am not 100% sure on what to ask for them. The 2 on the top. First is a Globe Arms model 334 in .303. Basically a really sporterized no4 but very nice. Nice wood and nice high gloss bluing.
Next is a 1943 Savage full matching. Bolt, receiver, mag with unissued wood. It was my first that I brought back from a sporter. Bluing is very

What would be a good price for these 2?

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How can you say the wood gives you wood?The butt is lighter than the fore stock,at least in the first picture.I still have a problem with what people are asking for the good old reliable Lee-Enfield.Damn, it seems that half of us CGN'er must be sitting on enough old Milsurp's to balance the national debt.
 
mr.e moose said:
How can you say the wood gives you wood?The butt is lighter than the fore stock,at least in the first picture.I still have a problem with what people are asking for the good old reliable Lee-Enfield.Damn, it seems that half of us CGN'er must be sitting on enough old Milsurp's to balance the national debt.
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It's the basic old law of economics called supply and demand.Items sell for what people will pay for them.I was well out of the shooting loop for several years for various reasons until this past winter and I can tell you I was shocked at the prices some of the old warhorses I used to have were commanding but it is what it is.One that really set me back was how much original Ross rifles are selling for.For example,damn near wept when I realised I sold a 1910 for peanuts about 12 years ago compared to what one is worth now.But it is what it is.
 
Nice rifles, the sporter is in really good shape! Re the desporterized one, I'd ask about the forend bedding job before guessing about market value, or a range report :)
 
mr.e moose said:
How can you say the wood gives you wood?The butt is lighter than the fore stock,at least in the first picture.I still have a problem with what people are asking for the good old reliable Lee-Enfield.Damn, it seems that half of us CGN'er must be sitting on enough old Milsurp's to balance the national debt.
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Cause the wood looks unissued and not beat to hell. If you think enfield prices are too high, sell some of yours to ease demand & lower the price. :cool:
 
Looks like Globeco was getting their own wood made for sporters. What's weird about that butt is the extreme length of the comb; I can't see how you would get your thumb over the top of the pistol grip. Still, nice looking pieces all of them. Well, apart that SKS which just ain't my cuppa.

The No.4 full wood must be a refit to have such pristine wood on an obviously somewhat worn action.

Values would depend on whether numbers match, condition of bores and chambers etc.
 
Ya the no4 I built up as my first restoration. The wood is mint and I hate to sell it. I have 4 enfields here with unissued beach or walnut that I restored. One 1950 LB, ROF(F) No4, the savage above and a Cno7. All unissued resto's. Im starting to move over to the originals now.
 
Why are some people dumping on resto jobs? Anyone posting in here pretty much agrees anything bubba'd is a travesty. Restoring a sporterized rifle to military configuration is generally good. Just because the color on a piece of wood is slightly different. It's hard to even find the same wood types to do a restoration. Look at how much resto garands are going for. Even non-resto can be a miss match of parts.
 
Dyspnea said:
Why are some people dumping on resto jobs? Anyone posting in here pretty much agrees anything bubba'd is a travesty. Restoring a sporterized rifle to military configuration is generally good. Just because the color on a piece of wood is slightly different. It's hard to even find the same wood types to do a restoration. Look at how much resto garands are going for. Even non-resto can be a miss match of parts.
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On an original military rifle, once it is in the field the colour of wood doesn't matter. If you had a beech set and needed a new piece, the armourer put on whatever he had. So don't get too hairy about perfectly matching wood. In fact, read a bit of history on these rifles. A maltby could wind up at the end of the war with every other makers parts. Even the factories swapped parts so that a Savage could come out of the factory with LB parts.
All matching is great but it isn't always historically correct.
When I rebuild a sporter I try to get it to look like it just came out of the factory. Whatever that was.
 
points said:
On an original military rifle, once it is in the field the colour of wood doesn't matter. If you had a beech set and needed a new piece, the armourer put on whatever he had. So don't get too hairy about perfectly matching wood. In fact, read a bit of history on these rifles. A maltby could wind up at the end of the war with every other makers parts. Even the factories swapped parts so that a Savage could come out of the factory with LB parts.
All matching is great but it isn't always historically correct.
When I rebuild a sporter I try to get it to look like it just came out of the factory. Whatever that was.
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I agree with everything you said. If during the war a piece of hardware or wood needed to be replaced the armourers did care about anything other than it functioning correctly. But god forbid that a buttstock or handgaurd be slight darker/lighter on a resto.

I'm currently finishing my savage no4 mk1 (no star), I have sourced all savage parts (except for handgaurds) and its a pain in the arse to match perfectly the color, due too wood grain differences and wood types and previous finishes. But it will look fantastic and offer its own character.

I just don't grasp why there seems to be some restoration hating
 
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