Whats the best bang for my buck spotting scope with a mil reticle ?

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Just bought 160 acres yay!! Now looking for decent affordable spotting scope with a mil reticle , will be shooting out to 1000 , also advice on a good bang for my buck laser rangefinder would be great too , I hear bushnell has a good one out now? Thanks.
 
Not much out there for affordable with a reticle. Bushnell and vortex make hand held monocular with reticles but they are 10x, or 15x.
Then there is this http://www.tacticalimports.ca/spotter-md-p-362.html. But I have no idea about quality, and good luck finding any reviews.
And bushnell will be coming out with a 500-6000 usd, tac spotter mid year.

As for budget long rand range finders, the list starts at the leica 1600-b, 800$-900$
then there are the bushnell 1 mile range finders which have been replaced with newer models, can be found for sub $800
Sig Sauer kilo 2000 just came out in the USA for around 400-50$ usd. and they are taking over as the best budget rangefinder

And lastly Newcon optics have a line of 1500m 1800m for sub $500, and they offer a 2200m one fr sub $1k. I mention last as I have no experience with them and all the review I found are from a few years back.
 
When it comes to tactical spotters, there isn't anything economical, if that's what you're asking. To get into a spotting scope with a reticle expect to pay over $3000 for new and perhaps ~$2000 for a used one. Once in a while you will find a Leupold 12-40x with a mildot reticle used for under $2000

The upcoming Bushnell Legend Tactical 15-45x60 T will be the new "cheap" option. Expected to hit American market June 2016 at a retail of $599USD

In my opinion, the Vortex Razor HD is the best spotter available with a reticle option. Only downside is that you need to purchase a separate 30x only eyepiece to get your reticle...

If you choose not to get a reticle and go with a range finder/spotter combo, the Kowa 883/884 is probably the best spotter you can find.

OR.. if you decide to forego the range finder and learn how to range with your reticle, you will have more to spend on the scope!!
 
Oh, one cheap solution to the spotter with a reticle, is to use a scope with a reticle to do your spotting, you will give up field of view but if your using it to spot corrections on targets then a huge field of view isn't necessary. All you have to is get a cheap picatinny rail, under 15$ from amazon, drill and tap a hole for 1/4-20. then mount a scope onto the rail as usual, then screw a tripod into the hole you tapped.

As far as using mil reticle to get accurate ranges at long range...good luck. Its not as easy as everyone makes it out to be. It requires previous knowledge of actual target size, coupled that with using reticles that may be to thick to get precises measurments, as well as a sight picture which is never perfectly still. They guys who get trainned to do this and spend hours and hours doing it give them selves a 5 or 10 % margine of error. So at 1000m thats a 100m meter error. Thats a pretty big miss.

If your using it just as a ball park measurement to shoot at natural targets very far away, and your going to make corrections any way, then yeah use mil ranging.
 
uncledillers said:
Oh, one cheap solution to the spotter with a reticle, is to use a scope with a reticle to do your spotting, you will give up field of view but if your using it to spot corrections on targets then a huge field of view isn't necessary. All you have to is get a cheap picatinny rail, under 15$ from amazon, drill and tap a hole for 1/4-20. then mount a scope onto the rail as usual, then screw a tripod into the hole you tapped.

As far as using mil reticle to get accurate ranges at long range...good luck. Its not as easy as everyone makes it out to be. It requires previous knowledge of actual target size, coupled that with using reticles that may be to thick to get precises measurments, as well as a sight picture which is never perfectly still. They guys who get trainned to do this and spend hours and hours doing it give them selves a 5 or 10 % margine of error. So at 1000m thats a 100m meter error. Thats a pretty big miss.

If your using it just as a ball park measurement to shoot at natural targets very far away, and your going to make corrections any way, then yeah use mil ranging.
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Great advise ! I just want the reticle for corrections not ranging. when you see that splash in the dirt its nice to have a way to measure the correction you need .. also that spotting scope from TI is very interesting for the price , and its from a Canadian company . I checked out their webpage and them seem legit , might be worth a try . http://www.newcon-optik.com/about.html
 
If you want to make corrections and not ranging, any FFP Mil/Mil scope will do exactly just that. I've long sold all my MOA scopes ... Mils all the way!
 
I have a newcon 1800.
Generally speaking I am happy with it. The unit itself feels a little bit cheap/ not tough at first, but mine has proven to be tough enough, I take it hunting and and have dropped it and all kinds of crap. It's holding up alright.
The glue that they use to hold the little rubber parts on is #### and mine has started to peel off. Cosmetic only.
It does range pretty well. Tree lines at 1500M isn't a problem. 3/4 IPSC targets get spotty at around 900 - 1000 depending if there is back stop or not.
I paid around 600 for mine so I can't complain.
I am debating upgrading to a Sig Kilo when they become available.
If it was me, I'd hold out for the Sig, apparently the next best thing to a Terrapin.

Also after some practice you can get pretty good at making corrections without a reticle, yes a reticle is faster.
But simple things like asking the shooter how big the target or the frame is in mils will give you a good reference for making corrections.
Takes a bit more practice but works just fine
 
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