whats the most bullets you've had to pull due to one reloading error?
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Hi. Have a part box of 50 .45's that needs pulling. Powder charging operator failure that led to requiring another barrel.
"...fl size used brass..." Brand new brass needs to be FL sized, checked for length, trimmed as required, then chamfered and deburred too.
If you ever end up with 2 like chambered rifles and are using the same brass in both(not unusual), you have to FL resize when loading as well.
If your .223 is a semi-auto, it requires FL resizing every time. Pumps and lever actions require it too. Neck sizing is only for bolt actions with brass that was fired out of that rifle.
"...used a Kinetic puller..." Ya gotta bash 'em on something hard. Found a rock works best.
"...fl size used brass..." Brand new brass needs to be FL sized, checked for length, trimmed as required, then chamfered and deburred too.
If you ever end up with 2 like chambered rifles and are using the same brass in both(not unusual), you have to FL resize when loading as well.
If your .223 is a semi-auto, it requires FL resizing every time. Pumps and lever actions require it too. Neck sizing is only for bolt actions with brass that was fired out of that rifle.
"...used a Kinetic puller..." Ya gotta bash 'em on something hard. Found a rock works best.
Almost 200 with 9mm.
I was stunned at how fast I could reload with my first reloading press, Dillon 650.
Did not use enough powder. None of my reloads would cycle my P226. Arrgh... I think I did two loads. 100 each.
Pulling them was a pain. Probably could have reloaded 400+ rds when pulling almost 200rds.
When veterans say just do 5-10rds while testing loads, they are right. Don't do 100, like me.
I was stunned at how fast I could reload with my first reloading press, Dillon 650.
Did not use enough powder. None of my reloads would cycle my P226. Arrgh... I think I did two loads. 100 each.
Pulling them was a pain. Probably could have reloaded 400+ rds when pulling almost 200rds.
When veterans say just do 5-10rds while testing loads, they are right. Don't do 100, like me.
notsorichguy
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I have a bucket....... When it gets full I pull & sort components of the buggered rnds. It all gets recycled (cast lead bullets & brass to the scrap yard, powder gets burned in the fire pit), none of it is any good to re-use.... That is why it's in the bucket.......
I have gotten so good at clearing jams on my Lee 100(s) that I don't bother to check for mil-crimps anymore..... I just pull the buggered shell out of the press and drop it in the bucket.......
Cheers!
), none of it is any good to re-use.... That is why it's in the bucket.......I have gotten so good at clearing jams on my Lee 100(s) that I don't bother to check for mil-crimps anymore..... I just pull the buggered shell out of the press and drop it in the bucket.......
Cheers!
blacksmithden
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
200 44 mags.
Lee Pro 1000 powder dispenser decided it would only drop 1 charge for every three or so rounds that went through it.
Lee Pro 1000 powder dispenser decided it would only drop 1 charge for every three or so rounds that went through it.
Not really an error, but I once pulled 595 9mm Major loads I had sitting around for 15 years or so to reclaim the primers and BlueDot. Did it in 2 evenings with a Quinetics inertia puller. Had blisters for weeks. Bought an RCBS press mounted puller the next week.
100- they weren't mine but 'included' with a gun I bought. .357mag SWC's loaded by a friend of the seller. I tested them and had one go 'click' rather than 'bang' out of the 7 I tried. That was reason enough for me not to be using them.
RCBS kinetic x 100 pulls= P.I.T.A.
RCBS kinetic x 100 pulls= P.I.T.A.
Threemorewishes
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200 7.5x55 Swiss reloads- they were too long for the chamber and the crimp was too tight to just reseat.
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Years ago I was loading .38 Spl ammo for our little club which consumed about 1000 rounds per week. If you want to get sick of loading, try loading a thousand rounds of handgun ammo on a single stage press once a week for a year or so. To call my loading equipment in those days modest would have been overly generous. My press, an RCBS Jr, my RCBS .38/.357 tool steel dies, and my Lee spoon style powder measure kit were all new, but everything else was bought second hand and was for the most part junk. One of these newly acquired gems was an ancient Lyman powder thrower, my first ever that I got for the princely sum of ten bucks. As it turned out, ten buck was too much! But I didn't know that at the time, and this was sure going to speed up the tedious operation of charging the cases. I set my new measure to throw 4.5 grs of Unique on a scale of questionable lineage that was not repeatable in any sense of the word and probably not accurate either. But I was young and eager to display my prowess as a handloader, and get someone else to pay for my shooting. My deal was that I would load the ammo, but I didn't have to pay for my share of it.
I would deprime and resize the first night, expand the case mouths and prime the second, charge the cases and seat the cast 158 gr SWCs on the third, and crimp and package the ammo on the fourth night. At least that was the original plan, but as the weeks wore on, I began putting the chore off until I was staying up all night Friday nights to have the ammo loaded for Saturday afternoon. At least that gave me an alibi for shooting poorly.
On the first occasion I used the thrower it didn't occur to me that I should occasionally check the thrown powder charges on the scale to ensure the adjustments had stayed put and that the throws stayed consistent as the volume of powder in the hopper dropped. Sure enough, after 500 rounds were loaded, a light bulb flashed in my head and I though maybe I should check the thrown charge. It had increased from 4.5 to 7.5 grs! s**t!!! This was Friday night of course and I needed the ammo for the next afternoon. When had the thrower gone out of adjustment? Who knows.
Fortunately I knew a fellow who loaded .38 Spl on a Star progressive and he always had lots of .38s on hand so I bought a 1000 from him the next morning. I did discover the best way to pull bullets from .38 Spl cases though, I shot the works in my .357. The powder measure went into the Red River and I went back to using the Lee Spoons until I could afford a decent micrometer adjusted powder measure.
I would deprime and resize the first night, expand the case mouths and prime the second, charge the cases and seat the cast 158 gr SWCs on the third, and crimp and package the ammo on the fourth night. At least that was the original plan, but as the weeks wore on, I began putting the chore off until I was staying up all night Friday nights to have the ammo loaded for Saturday afternoon. At least that gave me an alibi for shooting poorly.
On the first occasion I used the thrower it didn't occur to me that I should occasionally check the thrown powder charges on the scale to ensure the adjustments had stayed put and that the throws stayed consistent as the volume of powder in the hopper dropped. Sure enough, after 500 rounds were loaded, a light bulb flashed in my head and I though maybe I should check the thrown charge. It had increased from 4.5 to 7.5 grs! s**t!!! This was Friday night of course and I needed the ammo for the next afternoon. When had the thrower gone out of adjustment? Who knows.
Fortunately I knew a fellow who loaded .38 Spl on a Star progressive and he always had lots of .38s on hand so I bought a 1000 from him the next morning. I did discover the best way to pull bullets from .38 Spl cases though, I shot the works in my .357. The powder measure went into the Red River and I went back to using the Lee Spoons until I could afford a decent micrometer adjusted powder measure.
Not a reloading error but over the years I have pulled the bullets out of thousands of 223 and replaced the FMJ with a Vmax or the like for gopher shooting. Used to do the same when mil surp 308 was easy to get. We used the FMJs in 300 Win Mags for long range coyote and loaded 150 Hornadys in their place for target and hunting rounds.
My wife thinks I've got OCD because I'm always double,triple,quadruple checking when I'm loading but sometimes shyt just gets away from you.
I've got 80 in a pail waiting to pull, 60gr .223 with 15.5gr IMR 4198. 15.5 wtf? Should be 18.5. I measure individually so it takes a long time. Another time I had a full loading block, 80 rounds waiting for bullets and I spilled some powder over top of it. f#*kkkkk, start over. After that one I measure 10 at a time.
Anyways, time to go downstairs and make some more...
peace
I've got 80 in a pail waiting to pull, 60gr .223 with 15.5gr IMR 4198. 15.5 wtf? Should be 18.5. I measure individually so it takes a long time. Another time I had a full loading block, 80 rounds waiting for bullets and I spilled some powder over top of it. f#*kkkkk, start over. After that one I measure 10 at a time.
Anyways, time to go downstairs and make some more...
peace
I loaded up 100 .338 Edges in brand new Nosler brass awhile back. When I got around to shooting them I thought they were a little hotter, at least the bolt lift effort was harder so I scratched my head and quit. Turns out that the necks of the new lot of brass were a bit thicker, and bullets wouldn't enter the fired cases.
So it was pull 92 bullets, dump charges, resize without the decaping pin to get the thick section to the outside of the neck, turn necks, reweigh 100 charges and set 100 bullets. Did I mention that I hate pulling down loads and turning brass? I must have muttered, "Shoulda done a Lapua" about 100 times.
A current snafu is simmering, since I really hate pulling more than a few rounds. I've got a couple .223s on 700 VLSs, one stock except for bedding and trigger, the other barrelled up by Gaillard with a snugger than snug match chamber and all set up for 80 grain bullets. In an effort to make life simpler I decided to use all Lapua brass in one, and all Winchester in the other. That worked except that I had 100 once fired Lapua cases from the factory gun that I wanted to transplant to the race gun.
No problem, FLS size one case, try it in the match barrel, size them all, trim and load. Turns out that was probably the only one of the whole batch that would chamber, as the RCBS FL die wouldn't give enough squeeze to get the case down to the tight chamber dimensions.Because of the long heavy bullets I can't even plink them off in the generously chambered factory barrel.
Plan B, lube up a round and run it through a Redding FL body die. No luck there either.
Plan C, try another case sized in a small base FL die. That chambered no problem.
Plan D, order a Small base .223 body die. Turns out that they are back-ordered to the second coming of Christ.
Plan E, order a Small base Redding FL bushing die and leave the bushing out.
Plan F, send the wife out shopping, don a face shield and post size 100 live rounds with one hand covering my nuts. I never said it was a great plan.
Plan G, find someone with a sloppy chambered deep throat .223 who doesn't ask stupid questions to shoot them off for me.
Plan H, crush seat the already heavily compressed loads until I can chamber them in my own big assed chambered .223, then size in my SB die, then load for the target gun.
Plan I, throw 100 rounds in the lake.
One way or the other, I'm not pulling those rounds down.
So it was pull 92 bullets, dump charges, resize without the decaping pin to get the thick section to the outside of the neck, turn necks, reweigh 100 charges and set 100 bullets. Did I mention that I hate pulling down loads and turning brass? I must have muttered, "Shoulda done a Lapua" about 100 times.
A current snafu is simmering, since I really hate pulling more than a few rounds. I've got a couple .223s on 700 VLSs, one stock except for bedding and trigger, the other barrelled up by Gaillard with a snugger than snug match chamber and all set up for 80 grain bullets. In an effort to make life simpler I decided to use all Lapua brass in one, and all Winchester in the other. That worked except that I had 100 once fired Lapua cases from the factory gun that I wanted to transplant to the race gun.
No problem, FLS size one case, try it in the match barrel, size them all, trim and load. Turns out that was probably the only one of the whole batch that would chamber, as the RCBS FL die wouldn't give enough squeeze to get the case down to the tight chamber dimensions.
Because of the long heavy bullets I can't even plink them off in the generously chambered factory barrel. Plan B, lube up a round and run it through a Redding FL body die. No luck there either.
Plan C, try another case sized in a small base FL die. That chambered no problem.
Plan D, order a Small base .223 body die. Turns out that they are back-ordered to the second coming of Christ.
Plan E, order a Small base Redding FL bushing die and leave the bushing out.
Plan F, send the wife out shopping, don a face shield and post size 100 live rounds with one hand covering my nuts. I never said it was a great plan.
Plan G, find someone with a sloppy chambered deep throat .223 who doesn't ask stupid questions to shoot them off for me.
Plan H, crush seat the already heavily compressed loads until I can chamber them in my own big assed chambered .223, then size in my SB die, then load for the target gun.
Plan I, throw 100 rounds in the lake.
One way or the other, I'm not pulling those rounds down.
I have a bucket....... When it gets full I pull & sort components of the buggered rnds. It all gets recycled (cast lead bullets & brass to the scrap yard, powder gets burned in the fire pit
Cheers!
Sooo... about those cast lead bullets? think if i paid shipping you might box 'em up and send them my way next time you pull them apart?
No... seriously
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50 for me, loaded for a friend, load safe in my gun froze his action. Never again.
24 or so rounds.
I was experimenting with various amounts of powder with some tips: I starting loading 12 at the barest minimum of powder by the book and then increased the powder by a quarter grain for every 12 rounds after. I think I loaded 7 or 8 sets of 12 rounds.
The second lowest charge of powder was "weak" enough to catch a few empties in the action of the semi-auto; but the lowest powdered rounds wouldn't hardly move the slide. About 16 or so of those got pulled.
The hotest charge of powder was right at the absolute max for C.U.P. and they made the slide sound funny, almost like it was hurt'n something, so 8 or 10 of those got pulled.
I was experimenting with various amounts of powder with some tips: I starting loading 12 at the barest minimum of powder by the book and then increased the powder by a quarter grain for every 12 rounds after. I think I loaded 7 or 8 sets of 12 rounds.
The second lowest charge of powder was "weak" enough to catch a few empties in the action of the semi-auto; but the lowest powdered rounds wouldn't hardly move the slide. About 16 or so of those got pulled.
The hotest charge of powder was right at the absolute max for C.U.P. and they made the slide sound funny, almost like it was hurt'n something, so 8 or 10 of those got pulled.
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