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Claven2 said:
Hey... I just noticed Badgerdog's a mod now! Congrats Badger! Steve must like you ;)

Thanks, but I never realized the amount of effort it takes to keep everything on track ..... :D

I don't know if he likes me, but Stevo and I have developed a pretty good relationship ....... but, it doesn't mean we're going steady ... :p

Regards,
Badger
 
Badger's my best friend in the whole wide world! But he won't tell me where he lives...............or his real name:(

But he's still my pal!;)
 
I think its cool that there is a seperate SKS forum. The milsurpability of the SKS for some reason has often been put into question for reasons I barely understand, so it seems to irk some to see discussion of such topics ;)

On the bright side, there will likely be less people snobbing the SKS in our threads, telling us to trash the commie guns and get ARs instead :D

And, in my case, it will probably get me out of the woodwork and into discussion. Working on a stock now for mine that I hope will give it a nice look (THANKS LINEMAN!) :rolleyes:
 
On the bright side, there will likely be less people snobbing the SKS in our threads, telling us to trash the commie guns and get ARs instead :D.

The SKS is like the Rodney Dangerfield of the milsurp world, it "don't get no respect." IMO it's a genuine milsurp, but since it's so cheap, it's a prime bubba target (about half the threads seem to be "mod" threads). Thus leading to conflict with the gun snobs (price point) and milsurp purists (bubba jobs).
 
If I had BadgerDog's and ~Angel~'s collections, I wouldn't be be advertising my address.
When I saw the notice for this new forum, I thought, well, there's the trailer park of collecting. I've only personally owned one SKS - a refurbished Russian, 1951, that had gone to Egypt. But real ex-military SKS rifles aren't all that common in Canada - even genuine ex-service Chinese ones are less common than the clones intended for commercial sale.
Before they flooded into Canada, there was a small batch that came in through a company in Alberta - these were real ones, made in China, had gone to Viet Nam, then back to China, and then surplused. They were used, and dirty. Took a couple out at -30 to test fire. They ran like champions. First brand new Chinese service rifle I got in, I bedded it following the same general technique used for M-1/14 rifles, and it shot really well.
Like Carcanos, they get no respect. But they are available, they are solid and extremely functional, and are generally affordable.
 
tiriaq said:
If I had BadgerDog's and ~Angel~'s collections, I wouldn't be be advertising my address.
When I saw the notice for this new forum, I thought, well, there's the trailer park of collecting. I've only personally owned one SKS - a refurbished Russian, 1951, that had gone to Egypt. But real ex-military SKS rifles aren't all that common in Canada - even genuine ex-service Chinese ones are less common than the clones intended for commercial sale.

Not to contradict what you are saying, but do you think that SKS went to Egypt to herd sheep?

I have a Chinese SKS from 1957 and I can be pretty sure it saw at least as much or more "military" experience than my 1916 CG Swedish Mauser.

Now, can someone educate me as to what is a "commercial sale" SKS? Are they the stamped-receiver type?

Or am I fooling myself and I would have a non-genuine ex-service Chinese SKS? :)
 
SKSes and the collector.

Just try to get a genuine un-cleaned, un-touched Albanian or East-German SKS and you'll understand the SKS can be a collector's softspot, too.
There's a bit of snobbery from "the adults", I think...:rolleyes:
I know, the last generation of cheaply made Chinese SKSes tend to irk some but if these easily-obtained rifles can save more historically significant ones from being hacked and butchered to install bling-bling gadgets, so what?
Long live the SKS forum!:p
PP.;)
 
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There was a batch of SKS rifles that were surplused, which had acquired by Israel in Eqypt. A rack number in Arabic was painted on the butt. This was years ago, when SKS rifles were still rather uncommon.
 
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I remember those. Most were refurbished Russian SKS's that likely didn;t see a whole lot of service in the mid-east as condition wasn't that bad.

As for Military Chinese, if it says NORINCO anywhere on it, it's commercial. The military ones are ALL factory coded, usually Factory 26. They have the chinese script "Type 56" on them and most are milled with threaded bbl's. MANY of them are recently refurbished and sold through Norinco to places like Lever Arms along with the commercials - just to muddy the waters a bit.

The better examples usually have blade bayo as opposed to spikes too ;)
 
Stevo said:
Badger's my best friend in the whole wide world! But he won't tell me where he lives...............or his real name:(

But he's still my pal!;)


Hmm... well, I could theoretically give you everything but Badger's and Angel's measurements, but... I'm a nice guy, so I won't! :p

PS Badger: I know I didn't review that banner yet! Sorry! It's on my list, but the Deck still is taking most of my time so I haven't unpacked my K98k files yet!

I still think it's all GfDR ;) Wish I could see it in person to look for broken grain from an old branding on the butt...
 
tiriaq said:
First brand new Chinese service rifle I got in, I bedded it following the same general technique used for M-1/14 rifles, and it shot really well.

Hey! I want to see an article on how to do this!
Post it here in our new SKS forum...pretty please with Cosmoline on top. :)
 
Claven2 said:
The better examples usually have blade bayo as opposed to spikes too ;)

Just be sure to check the rest of the rifle out as Blade Bayonets can be bought for $10.00. And in the Day the Chinese did swap them around when they needed to. :D

BTW my SKS is Factory 626. :)
 
Claven2 said:
As for Military Chinese, if it says NORINCO anywhere on it, it's commercial. The military ones are ALL factory coded, usually Factory 26. They have the chinese script "Type 56" on them and most are milled with threaded bbl's.;)

I remember reading somewhere (Simonov.net?) that the earliest receivers did not have the chinese characters on them.

Mine is a 1million serial (factory 106), nowhere says norinco but does say 7.62x39. No chinese lettering. If I am to use the dating scheme it would be a 1957 receiver, but since the numbering scheme seems only to work with Factory26 it could be another year.

Threaded barrel, with the shortened barrel lugs. Not pinned ;)
 
Proutfoo said:
I remember reading somewhere (Simonov.net?) that the earliest receivers did not have the chinese characters on them.

Mine is a 1million serial (factory 106), nowhere says norinco but does say 7.62x39. No chinese lettering. If I am to use the dating scheme it would be a 1957 receiver, but since the numbering scheme seems only to work with Factory26 it could be another year.

Threaded barrel, with the shortened barrel lugs. Not pinned ;)

You are right, the earliest receivers did not have chinese on them - they were receivers sent to China from RUSSIA. They can be ID's by a 4 digit serial number with a Cyrillic prefix. They also have no factory stamps. I assure you, your rifle is NOT one of those. I've never seen one dated after 1961, by the way, and ALL were assembled at Factory 26.

The absence of Type 54 in Chinese and the 7.62x39 lettering make your rifle a definite commercial production SKS. It's also not a 1957 made receiver, probably more like 1987... or later.

It should still be a fine rifle though - have fun with it!
 
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