What's up with Ljungman's ripping brass apart?

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Anyone have this problem? I'm thinking about getting one sooner or later, I know they were designed and put into production in less than a year. Anyone have complaints about these rifles? What should I look for?
 
Also, most north american manufactured 6.5 X 55 is formed from 30-06 blanks at the factory. This is smaller than the actuall european standard by
.01 or better and it allows the base to over expand. Add this to over pressure ammo (to heavy a bullet pushed to fast) and it pulls the base off.

The rifle works very well with the proper ammo, it served for years. They tend to be very accurate to boot. (mine shoots much better than I do...)
 
I've used Igmans' 139 grain ammo out of my Ljungmann since day one and have yet to have an instance of cases being ripped apart, or even being trated poorly beyond a few halfway closed necks.

As far as complaints, no, I don't.

Mine, with aforementioned Igman ammo, with do 1-2" groups depending on the day and me, recoil is neglible, and it's rather easy to strip apart.

Some people don't like the sights on them, but I find them rather nice to use, and the rear sight can be taken apart and adjusted for using the old roundnose (160 grain I believe), or the 140 grain bullet.

And they're cheap, far less so than a Garand, SVT-40, or Gewehr 43.
 
The problem is PORT pressure, not chamber pressure: 2 different things.

The Ljungmann does have port pressure problems, but so can ANY gas gun. I have an article here on how to deal with port pressure issues, including with the Ljungmann; if you'd like a copy, PM me.
 
Was trying one out at the range a few months back, and my only complaint was How freaking far the brass went downrange. :D

Other then that she performed nicely.
 
Calum said:
Was trying one out at the range a few months back, and my only complaint was How freaking far the brass went downrange. :D

Other then that she performed nicely.
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LOL, I had a box set up to remedy that!! Had to put some heavy stuff in the box, beceause the brass kept knocking the box over!!:D :D :D
 
Also, make sure your chamber is really clean. If its dirty and rough, well, the brass will stick more and you'll rip the head off. A little very very fine steel wool on a jag with some oil will clean up most rust/dirt. You can try lightly lubing the case of the rounds before fireing, that will help as well, but if the round is to high a pressure, well, you might be cycling well, but its beating up the rifle
 
Calum said:
Was trying one out at the range a few months back, and my only complaint was How freaking far the brass went downrange. :D

Other then that she performed nicely.
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If you are going to shoot one, you have to pack a lunch when you go out to pick up your empty cases.!!!!! ;) ;) ;)

In any case the folks are right. Stick to the original loading. Any hotter, and you have BIG problems.

I can say one thing about it, shooting at 100 yds. I set the sight at 1 and shot the centre out of the target!!!!:D
 
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smellie said:
The problem is PORT pressure, not chamber pressure: 2 different things.

The Ljungmann does have port pressure problems, but so can ANY gas gun. I have an article here on how to deal with port pressure issues, including with the Ljungmann; if you'd like a copy, PM me.
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Exactly
Every gas gun has a powder & pressure combination it was designed around.

Garands & M-14s are well known for this sensitivity.
 
My Ljungmann has this problem with non-military loadings. I also have a Hakim (Egyptian version) in 8mm Mauser that has an adjustable gas port to deal with pressure differences. I shoot the Hakim more because of this. The military surplus 6.5mm for the AG42B is getting more expensive and harder to get in bulk. I can only find a couple hundred rounds at a time at the gun shows here in the States. I keep extra extractors on hand as these seem to take the abuse from higher pressure ammo. The Hakim shoots all day and the next on 70's era Yugo ammo. The 50's era stuff requires some gas port tweaking. The Hakim gets all the great stares from the old farts firing their pristine .22 rimfire target rifles. It's combination compensator/muzzle brake/noise enhancer knocks dust off the overhead cover and it bounces brass all over the range. Incoming!:) :) :)
 
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