What's wrong about Browning A-Bolts ?
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I own Browning A-Bolt, Remington, Savage, and CZ. The A-Bolt with it's 60 degree throw is smoothest action among them all. But it's hard to find tactical gear for it.
A little off topic, but you have to give Browning their due, as they shaped early gun design more than any other manufacturer out there.
Jay
A little off topic, but you have to give Browning their due, as they shaped early gun design more than any other manufacturer out there.
Jay
Brownings will continue to be produced, Winchester Model 70s will not. The A-bolt is a modernized bolt action, it has a lot more in common with the Ruger 77 than most other current production.
Oh, and they do not cost twice as much, my A-Bolt Hunter in 25 WSSM cost me just about as much as a Model 70 would have.
Oh, and they do not cost twice as much, my A-Bolt Hunter in 25 WSSM cost me just about as much as a Model 70 would have.
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- maple ridge b.c
todbartell said:lets not even try to talk about how stupid the BOSS is!
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What is so bad about the B.O.S.S. As long as the CR option is taken noise is normal, but the accuracy that is obtainable with an out of the box rifle... outstanding!
As for barrel switching, I've seen a few but since they shoot so well from the start,why bother?
Something I forgot to mention, when you compare a remington magazine and a browning magazine, the browning is the superioir design, i.e. notice in the browning that cartridges are stopped from recoil damage at the shoulders so the bullet tip never touches the end of the mag, whereas in the remington mag, the bullets tips take the brunt of the recoil force.
I paid 800$ tax incl for mu Abolt hunter last year.
So they do not cost more than a mod 70 did.
The 60 degree bolt handle id really nice and very smooth.
Mine (30/06) shoots a 2" (5shot) group with winchester 180gr factory and an inch with handloads. So for practical hunting accuracy that's as good as you'll ever need. Many people don't like the Mag setup personally I love it as here we do a lot of driving when hunting and are not allowed to have a loaded mag in your gun. but if it's attached to the floor plate but not in the gun....Fcukin A!
The rifle I have balances better than any Mod 70 I ever fondled.
And yes the bolt handle does look like a smarty but that's a small trade off for and accurate, reliable hunting rifle.
Now one of you guys mentioned no tactical gear for it....IT's a hunting rifle for pete sake!! It's supposed to shoot and kill deer at +- 300Y reliably.
If I was for any reason looking for another hunting rifle and the price was right on an A-bolt I woulod buy it
So they do not cost more than a mod 70 did.
The 60 degree bolt handle id really nice and very smooth.
Mine (30/06) shoots a 2" (5shot) group with winchester 180gr factory and an inch with handloads. So for practical hunting accuracy that's as good as you'll ever need. Many people don't like the Mag setup personally I love it as here we do a lot of driving when hunting and are not allowed to have a loaded mag in your gun. but if it's attached to the floor plate but not in the gun....Fcukin A!
The rifle I have balances better than any Mod 70 I ever fondled.
And yes the bolt handle does look like a smarty but that's a small trade off for and accurate, reliable hunting rifle.
Now one of you guys mentioned no tactical gear for it....IT's a hunting rifle for pete sake!! It's supposed to shoot and kill deer at +- 300Y reliably.
If I was for any reason looking for another hunting rifle and the price was right on an A-bolt I woulod buy it
any decent gun doesnt need a tuner weight hanging off the end of the barrel to make it shoot under 1" or less
most people buy Browning cuz they like the logo and think the stuff they have is fancy. Browning likes to take other manufacturer's stuff and slap their logo on the packaging and market it as their own...
(bushnell elite scopes, talley rings, etc).
they sell well, that is for sure, but that doesnt make them a good rifle! good marketing does wonders...
most people buy Browning cuz they like the logo and think the stuff they have is fancy. Browning likes to take other manufacturer's stuff and slap their logo on the packaging and market it as their own...
(bushnell elite scopes, talley rings, etc).they sell well, that is for sure, but that doesnt make them a good rifle! good marketing does wonders...
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- Vancouver Island BC
I have had a couple Browning's before and I really hate the clip combination floorplate and I never did get used to the 60 degree bolt. Both the Browning's I had the small metal tang that holds the mag onto the floorplate broke off. The muffler on the Browning never did anything for me and I doubt the claims about accuracy and only made the rifle longer enabling it to catch every branch in the woods. Remington has way more after market stuff and I think it's a more accurate gun out of the box. I hope Remington never puts that stupid looking muffler on any rifles.
I see your point, but: Why buy a high-end hunting rifle and try and make it a "precision" rifle? Why not buy a precision rifle and turn it into a better precision rifle for the same amount of money? It just makes things more complicated.Danny Boy said:Your kind of thinking reminds me why people buy Chrysler and Chev entry-level cars and you are right. However, there is a little more than just getting from point A to B in driving or hunting for that matter.
When you reach the point you want better things in life and can afford to buy more then you will appreciate why folks spend the extra to buy Lexus and Infiniti. By the way, there are cars that are more expensive than Lexus.
Danny
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Browning A-bolt
Personally, I like the A-bolt. I've owned a few & still have one in .300 Win Mag. So, I like the A-bolt fine - as a hunting rifle. But for a precision rifle my action of choice would be on a Rem 700...
Personally, I like the A-bolt. I've owned a few & still have one in .300 Win Mag. So, I like the A-bolt fine - as a hunting rifle. But for a precision rifle my action of choice would be on a Rem 700...
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- maple ridge b.c
Browning A-bolts don't NEED a tuner at the end to shoot well, they do that without the BOSS, however if you can deal with the ugly the BOSS does work well. I'ts prolly a matter of diminishing returns. They are a nicer hunting rifle than a Savage or Rem 700,but how much nicer is up to the guy buying it. I won't compare them to Ruger or Win cause they are CRF and bring new debate.But yeah if I were going out to make(not buy) a precision rifle I'd start with a Rem 700 action.
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- Powell River B.C.
I like my A Bolt in 338 wm but as some have mentioned ,the way the mag attaches to the hinged floor plate in my opinion is a weak link .Also they do have alot of alluminum on them.Out of the box they are a decent hunting rifle but I think that is about it.
I shot one at one of my first sniper matches. It was a loaner from a local smith. It shot great groups, but was a pain in the ass at the match as you couldn't single load it without tons of trouble. The mag was also not very reliable for feeding either.
