Whats wrong with my mauser?

Ryan500

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So I have an old Israeli mauser, with a small issue. When I work the bolt back to eject the brass, it just stays perfectly straight and I have to pull it by hand. What do you call the piece that is not working? Ejector?

When I got this it worked fine, it is my understanding that loading single shot for these will ruin part of the bolt so I always feed from the mag, is that true?

Also when I load the first round out of the mag into the chamber its a real pain in the ass, way harder than it needs to be. Something is up, any ideas?


Thanks all.

Ryan
 
Looking into it more I know that the side piece for the bolt release is no longer going back into postion by spring. I assume this has something to do with it.
 
ya thats it from what i understand its the extractor take it off via the screw and see if the spings busted or if its just really dirty and doesnt wanna move ... the sping there doesnt have that much tension
 
The part that PULLS the cartridge out of the chamber is the EXTRACTOR.

The part that throws the empty casing out of the rifle is the EJECTOR.

You can and will wreck the EXTRACTOR by not loading from the magazines, but your current trouble is with the EJECTOR.

Remove the bolt from the rifle, get a screwdriver and remove the Bolt Stop/EJECTOR Box from the rifle. One screw. CLEAN inside it thoroughly. If the SPRING which pushes against the EJECTOR is broken, replace it with a correct spring or with a short coil spring which you epoxy in place. Put it back together and go to the range.

If you need parts, try Trade-Ex. I know they have parts for a 98 Mauser. So should your local gun shop, but no guarantee on that.

And flip on over to milurps dot com, take out a MEMBERSHIP and download a MANUAL.
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Thanks for your HELP, I will pull it APART and see what I can find. Hope its an EASY fix as that DAMN israeli is my all time favorite RIFLE.
 
" QUOTE ----When I got this it worked fine, it is my understanding that loading single shot for these will ruin part of the bolt so I always feed from the mag, is that true?

Also when I load the first round out of the mag into the chamber its a real pain in the ass, way harder than it needs to be. Something is up, any ideas?"


To answer your first statement, YES, always put the cartridges in the magazine first before chambering one. The Mauser System for the later Swedish m/96 and various m/98 Mausers, (and others,) is designed to pick up a cartridge from the magazine of the rifle, and push it forward into the chamber of the rifle. When doing this, the face of the bolt pushes against the base of the cartridge, and the cartridge raises up WITH THE GROOVE IN THE RIM OF THE CARTRIDGE AGAINST THE BOLT FACE, AND BEHIND THE EXTRACTOR. If you put a cartridge into the chamber, then close the bolt, the extractor has to snap outwards over the rim of the cartridge. This can result in a jammed cartridge, a damaged rim of the soft brass which then tears off leaving the case stuck in the chamber, or a broken extractor.

When you take the bolt stop/ejector assembly apart, check to see that the ejector is not damaged or burred on the end, and that it will freely operate in the slot. Sometimes overenthusiastic operation of the bolt will peen, enlarge or damage the end of the ejector and the ejector will not go out far enough to eject the cartridge case.

To answer your second part, the magazine is designed to hold FIVE cartridges. Only load FIVE or less cartridges at one time. Check the magazine spring for tension, or possibly something like dirt or crud jamming the magazine spring. Also, it is possible that the spring (and/or) magazine follower has been exchanged with a different model. You might also check for damage or burrs on the feed lips of the receiver.

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buffdog said:
To answer your second part, the magazine is designed to hold FIVE cartridges. Only load FIVE or less cartridges at one time. Check the magazine spring for tension, or possibly something like dirt or crud jamming the magazine spring. Also, it is possible that the spring (and/or) magazine follower has been exchanged with a different model. You might also check for damage or burrs on the feed lips of the receiver.

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Only been running 5!!
 
You ASKED, I replied. If you don't want an answer, don't ask the question.

No need to get bent out of shape; lots of people can't be bothered to read a manual.

Your OP showed a confusion between parts, so I simply straightened out the names. It IS sort of nice to be talking about the correct part and the same part.

Next time I won't bother.

But there is nothing wrong with the hook thingie on the whatchacallit. Your problem is the little floppy thingamus which ain't sposed 2 B floppy u need a part get a book fer yr gun & read it.

I'm gone.
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Relax bud, it was funny with the caps that why I replied that way. Thanks for your help guys, will get some spare parts and clean that thing out and see whats up.
 
Ryan500 said:
Relax bud, it was funny with the caps that why I replied that way. Thanks for your help guys, will get some spare parts and clean that thing out and see whats up.
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When Computers first became accessable to the Public, the use of Capital letters in a word was to emphasize or make a point to call attention to something. It has somehow now perceived as shouting, but some of us older guys still stick to old, original habits.

In the same way, we were taught that there is only one word for a particular object when it came to firearms, particularly Military firearms. There was a definite meaning for Lee-Enfield, Enfield, and SMLE (Short, Magazine, Lee-Enfield.) It was a System that evolved over decades that gave everyone a very precise idea of what a problem was and what part was needed. When someone said "Ejector" then everyone knew exactly what part was at fault.

God help the individual who called a "rifle" a "gun" because he then made an intimate acquaintance with a very short tempered authoritative person called the "Sergeant-Major." The usual result was an improvement in your Physical Education with several laps around the Parade Square holding your "Rifle" above your head, with optional vocalization and vertical hand pointing up and down, with the words "This is my Rifle, this is my Gun............................"

Up until the invention of the AK-47, the Mauser System was the most common rifle in the world. Millions of men were trained to use it, and every one of them was trained to be specific in the names of the components, in their respective languages.

They were also taught the basics of loading and shooting the bolt action rifle, and the perils involved in not loading a Mauser 98 through the magazine, thus putting a much needed rifle out of action at a critical moment. Today, we find a lot of people who still do not know how to properly load a controlled round feed action, and worse still, how to clear their screwed up loaded round out of the chamber by depressing the extractor at a certain place so that it snaps over the rim of the chambered cartridge.

I am from the Old School of Computer Language, where I still use capital letters to emphasize or stress importance to a word. .
 
God help the individual who called a "rifle" a "gun" because he then made an intimate acquaintance with a very short tempered authoritative person called the "Sergeant-Major." .



This is your rifle, This is your gun.
This is for fighting,This is for fun.
 
mr.e moose said:
God help the individual who called a "rifle" a "gun" because he then made an intimate acquaintance with a very short tempered authoritative person called the "Sergeant-Major." .



This is your rifle, This is your gun.
This is for fighting,This is for fun.
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Ah yes, running the length of the Armoury, FN in one hand above the head, other hand in the crotch (stationary under pain of death) magazine hammering a divot in your head with every step, planning revenge on the moronic t*rd who asked "who's got my gun?" Life was good.
 
John, you have the cadence EXACTLY correct.

You've been there, too..... and you didn't tell us!
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If Fritz had known what kind of RSMs we had, we could have just sent THEM Over The Top in the Great War.

Poor Fritz would have surrendered in an instant!
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The Company Sergeant-Major was bad enough, but if you happened to come to the attention of the Regimental Sergeant-Major, (also known as the One who gives God advice,) then your life in Hell just began.

Now, instead of you being a face in the middle of a group of people, the RSM now knew of you by NAME, and of your transgressions contrary to his orderly small world. RSMs like things orderly, and any small ripple into his pond was attended to, usually to the misfortune of the person who caused the ripple.

So, for an indeterminate period of time, when the Regimental Sergeant-Major had an interesting project involving a shovel, wanted someone to lift, tote or fetch a heavy object, needed a "volunteer" for something that nobody in his right mind would volunteer for, and other little tasks, then YOU were the first name to come to mind and your participation was required.

Eventually, under the RSMs tutilage, you realized the error of your sloppy ways and habits, some other fool would ring the gong, attracting the RSMs attention, and then you were off the hook, except when the RSM needed two "Volunteers" for an afternoon of fun and games. As the days passed, (not fast enough for your satisfaction though,) and there being a good supply of fools in a Regiment, your name descended in his priorities, and your life, activities and leisure time improved. You were not forgotten, because RSMs have a memory like an Elephant.

But the RSM always seemed to be a bit fair too. Under his scrutiny during Parades and Inspections, he took a bit of extra time to examine your appearance and efforts, and now that he had helped take the square corners off you so that you nicely fit into a round hole in his Domain, you were acceptable as one of "his" people.
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