Where to find new un-primed Winchester 308 brass?

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Where can I find new un-primed Winchester 308 brass in Canada?
I need something like 400 cases.

I have looked everywhere and cant find it.
Even Brownells only has Winchester brass in a couple calibers.
 
If you get really stuck call HIRSCH Precision and get Lapua brass. Nice people to deal with and they have stock.
 
Winchester brass is not what it once was (especially since winchester doesn't make it anymore)

I bought some and the case heads (and the shoulder setback) were WAY undersize. Enough so that the brass looks bulged after you fire it.

I opened a ticket with winchester. They referred me to Graywood so that I could send the brass back for a 'refund' It's not actually a refund, but winchester vouchers. Well, seeing as I won't buy their brass anymore, and I don't want to risk etching my bolt face with their primers....... I'd rather hold onto the brass until I find someone who doesn't care that it undersize......
 
PRVI for me now and it is less then some suppliers.

If you want Win, they were offering it in case lots but now sold out... no feedback on how good or bad it is now.

Been rocking the PRVI for 3 years now... working great in most of my LR precision rifles.

Jerry
 
*MALICE* said:
Winchester brass is not what it once was (especially since winchester doesn't make it anymore)
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It would be very odd if Winchester didn't make brass anymore, seeing as they are a division of Olin and Olin's single biggest business is metalworking of copper and brass alloys. Can I suggest you recheck your sources.
 
BattleRife said:
It would be very odd if Winchester didn't make brass anymore, seeing as they are a division of Olin and Olin's single biggest business is metalworking of copper and brass alloys. Can I suggest you recheck your sources.
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With the hoarding of components and ammunition that is taking place south of 49 it appears that the Ammo manufacturers are stepping away from supplying components and concentrating on supplying loaded ammo. Both Winchester and Remington have issued a comment that they will step away from the component market for approx. 2 years. Some smaller niche companies seem to be happy to try and fill that need. Privi would be an example of that. With that in mind I would suggest when you find components you need..........buy them..buy as much as you can afford. You do not know when they will be available again.
 
I've been shooting Lapua for the last 6 years or so but it's heavy and I wanted to shoot Winchester brass because it's the lightest of all the brass manufacturers that I'm aware of and about half the cost of Lapua (last time I checked). I shot Winchester for many years with no negative issues.

I do know that Winchester brass weight is not consistent, but I weight sort anyway so I don't see that as a concern.

On the other hand I do now have concerns about what was stated above about Winchester quality issues lately. I was not aware of that. I was also not aware that Winchester no longer makes their own brass.

Maybe I should stick with Lapua after all.
 
I hear the argument that Lapua is twice the price quite often but I feel this is mostly true of less popular and large cartridges. By less popular I mean in comparison to .308/.223 that outsells pretty much everything else. Looking at my local prices I can get 50 pcs of Win brass for $35-50 depending on cal. About $40 for .308. Hornady is $50 for 50. So 80 cents for Win and $1 for Hornady. I believe Rem is around $40 for 50 too. Lapua is around $90 for 100. Last time I bought it was $85 for 100. Even at $110 for 100 the price difference is miniscule considering the number of firings we get out of our brass. When it comes to .308 I feel Lapua is priced right around other brands. Other cals not so much. Lapua .223 is about the same price of their .308. Well above most other brands. Bigger cases like .338LM and the less common cals can get very pricey with Lapua though.
 
supernova said:
I hear the argument that Lapua is twice the price quite often but I feel this is mostly true of less popular and large cartridges. By less popular I mean in comparison to .308/.223 that outsells pretty much everything else. Looking at my local prices I can get 50 pcs of Win brass for $35-50 depending on cal. About $40 for .308. Hornady is $50 for 50. So 80 cents for Win and $1 for Hornady. I believe Rem is around $40 for 50 too. Lapua is around $90 for 100. Last time I bought it was $85 for 100. Even at $110 for 100 the price difference is miniscule considering the number of firings we get out of our brass. When it comes to .308 I feel Lapua is priced right around other brands. Other cals not so much. Lapua .223 is about the same price of their .308. Well above most other brands. Bigger cases like .338LM and the less common cals can get very pricey with Lapua though.
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I agree 100% with this statement! as well as the quality issues stated above. I have now been reloading for only 6 years and have had bad experience with Win Brass in 22-250, 308 (also necked down to 7mm-08). Im also have some really old Winchester brass from rounds made in Cobourg Ontario and back then the brass was ALOT better. I anneal every 4-5 fireing and with the same load in the 308 i have YET to have an issue with these old brass.. and im up to 10 firings. The new winchester brass lasted me 6 and i was getting inconsistency with primer pockets getting over expansion. Some went on the 1st round and others lasted the 6... once those 50 were used up i Went to Lapua.. AND HERE IS THE KICKER. After doing the math on cost. im cheaper using Lapua over any other brass simply cause it lasts longer. Here is an Example.. I was $40 for 50 Winchester 22-250 brass 4 years ago. got 3-5 firings before i got primer pocket issues and 1 head separation before i dumped the lot. ( Lasted me 1 Year). Went out and bought 100 Lapua for $110 shipped to the door. Im now on my 7th Reloading with no issues and im still on my 1st 50 of 100(2 years)...So once my 1st 50 start to show signs i will discard them and move to the next 50 for another 2 years of service for 55 bucks.. THAT CUTS COST IN 1/2. Hope to So in conclusion your saving money when spending more upfront in this instance.

Just my 2 Cents and just stick with Lapua.. Or maybe try Remington or Prvi as i have limitied experiance with both..

Josh
 
For 308 I have a few hundred once fired Norma match that were $40/100...use to be easy to find on CGN for a while lol
 
ackertjosh said:
I agree 100% with this statement! as well as the quality issues stated above. I have now been reloading for only 6 years and have had bad experience with Win Brass in 22-250, 308 (also necked down to 7mm-08). Im also have some really old Winchester brass from rounds made in Cobourg Ontario and back then the brass was ALOT better. I anneal every 4-5 fireing and with the same load in the 308 i have YET to have an issue with these old brass.. and im up to 10 firings. The new winchester brass lasted me 6 and i was getting inconsistency with primer pockets getting over expansion. Some went on the 1st round and others lasted the 6... once those 50 were used up i Went to Lapua.. AND HERE IS THE KICKER. After doing the math on cost. im cheaper using Lapua over any other brass simply cause it lasts longer. Here is an Example.. I was $40 for 50 Winchester 22-250 brass 4 years ago. got 3-5 firings before i got primer pocket issues and 1 head separation before i dumped the lot. ( Lasted me 1 Year). Went out and bought 100 Lapua for $110 shipped to the door. Im now on my 7th Reloading with no issues and im still on my 1st 50 of 100(2 years)...So once my 1st 50 start to show signs i will discard them and move to the next 50 for another 2 years of service for 55 bucks.. THAT CUTS COST IN 1/2. Hope to So in conclusion your saving money when spending more upfront in this instance.

Just my 2 Cents and just stick with Lapua.. Or maybe try Remington or Prvi as i have limitied experiance with both..

Josh
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Great points.. longevity with proper maintenance is the true measure of your loading costs.

Why I love my PRVI brass. I typically quit using them for match shooting when they hit 6 to 8 loadings. I have yet to throw out a case due to loose primers and my loading is typical of F class needs. I anneal often and outside neck turn every firing or two.

For practise, I usually just toss them when they get over 12 reloads... why take a chance. The case owes me nothing at that point.

I will form from 22-250 for my 6XC and 6.5 Creedmoor rifles... If the brass gets lost at a match, no biggie.

So, I get excellent accuracy, long case life and the costs started off less then much on the market today.

Works for me....

Jerry
 
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