Where to get the Savage Palma in Canada

mpwolf (I know of you and may have shook? shaken? shock? your hand at Connaught):

We agree that barrels have a lifespan. My point about an old rifle is that it is probably shot out. A newcomer might think that a rifle is a rifle is a rifle, and it doesn't need anything more done. With experience, DCRA shooters know barrels must be changed. Flogging an old rifle on a new shooter isn't helping the sport.

And you are a rat! A Musgrave in a Mcmillan for $800. I hope you get a blister on your trigger finger from shooting it so much.

But this post is about a particular new rifle model. How are the Savage factory TR barrels?
 
Maple- meeting folks last August was probably the neatest thing about the whole experience. I hope my blistered trigger finger didn't dig you too hard:evil:

You're right about new shooters needing to have good equipment. It's impossible to know just what you're doing wrong if you don't have gear that can outshoot the shooter. I started my career w/ a mauser action and a musgrave barrel that fouled worse than I've seen since. I learned follow through, thanks to the rather leisurely lock time, but my scores were such that it was hard not to get discouraged. I probably would have, if there hadn't been some experienced shooters willing to take some time to help me set some priorities in order to get better- both gear and some basic loading technique got me on my way. We all need to remember how we got started, and make sure we reach back to give the new folks a hand up.
I'm sure the new Savage offering is good stuff, though I'd guess the barrel is the weakest link in the system. Team Savage USA seems to be proving that the things can shoot!
 
Excellent points even though I'm sure they have strayed way off the original poster's path.

My philosophy is that if a gun is not capable of putting the bullet exactly where it gets aimed, one will never become a better long-distance shooter. When the intrinsic tolerances can place a bullet in a .5 or even 1 MOA away from where you aimed, how can you learn to correct for your own mistakes? How can you learn to read mirage and wind??

I do not consider myself an expert of reading either, but at least I can be assured that on a calm day, my gun makes one ragged hole at 200M, thus "3" or a "4" is the result of my failure to read conditions properly, not a shagged-out barrel, scope, ammo, or rifle. a "3" is my fault, not the gun's
 
Obtuned, a 3 is the fault of the marker!!!!!

My story and I'm sticking to it :)

Savage barrels on their target models seem to be shooting goofy good for a factory pipe. Maybe extra care in production????

What concerns me the most is what happens when that barrel gets competition hot?

My experience with other hunting/varmint barrels is they all walked when they got toasty. Not much fun when shots 12 to 15 head for the moon.

I guess there is a simple way to finding out. Just shoot the rifle and see what happens. Most F class and TR matches need at least 17rds fired including sighters. Nice to work to 22rds just incase. Of course, take about the same time as is allowed in a relay.

The best part of these Savages is you have an action, trigger and stock that can be used to great effect for most shooters career/interest/competition goals.

All you need is to spin on a top quality match barrel whenever the need arises and you are good to go. Affordable, accessible, and great performance.

I don't think there has ever been a time when affordable 'entry' level rifles actually were good enough to take home the plastic.

Jerry
 
One again... looking for a Savage Palma...

I tried shooting TR/O with the F/TR and it is not working out for me. It's not fun shooting it from a sling with the 1" barrel.

Anybody know where to find one?

Thanks again

Verne
 
It's only 12.65 lbs without the scope. My TR weigh 14.2 lbs and the DCRA/ICFRA was removed the max rifle weight (damn I should have given away my old heavy Palma barrel).
All kidding aside, if your sling/glove are doing their jobs and your position is good, you shouldn't really feel any weight.
 
I hear you... its a very front heavy rifle. That is what i am experiencing. The sling is taking the weight, but the torque on the wrist because of all the weight in the front is brutal. I could add some lead in the back i guess...

But I have to say, in the words of the great Wayne from Wayne's World.... SHAWING when I look at the Savage Palma. What a beauty.
 
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