Where's the logic
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You're learning, grasshopper.
Now that we get that other unfortunate stuff out of the way, let me say i agree fully that the firearms laws are ridiculous. You have stumbled onto the reason that some of us are so interested in antique handguns. No registration or licensing needed to legally own, shoot, or transport. Works for me.
Yes but antique handguns are so expensive
Yes but antique handguns are so expensive
Yes but think what they can do for you.
Now go look at and antique dresser or vase and think what it can do for you...
Antique firearms are about the best antique thing to spend money on i figger for what they give in return and they keep there value very well most have gone way up in just the last 5 years.
And there fun! theres something special about a 120 year old Antique handgun that a repo just dont have.
Yes but antique handguns are so expensive
Yes, but that's not all bad either. It tends to keep them out of the hands of the people who would abuse them and screw it up for the rest of us.
The gun at the lower right is a Manhattan .36 Navy Series IV made in 1864, it is a period copy of the 1849 Pocket Colt. The extra cylinder stops allow the cylinder to lock in between the nipples which makes it safer to carry fully loaded.
Hey antis why a pistol like that is Restricted
Which part of that gun is the frame or receiver?
Some muzzle loading guns do not meet the basic definition of a firearm...
...that depends entirely upon who made the definition.
Merriam Webster Dictionary:
firearm : a weapon from which a shot is discharged by gunpowder —usually used of small arms. Originated 16th - 17th century AD.
The gun bureuacrats who gave us their bastardized definition of "firearm" steadfastly ignored 500 years of established usage of the word to make the current gun laws. Which pretty much sums up most of our gun laws - no connection with reality.
I think they count the breech plug as the receiver, or at least thats my understanding, for flintlocks, and percussion cap single shots, but when you think about it that would make the locks, uncontrolled parts.. unless they count that as the frame. I guess this is why you don't let people who don't know about guns make laws on them.
So expensive!????
Go buy a POS modern sporting rifle and a made in china scope and see what the bill comes to. Next day you can sell it for 50-60% of what you paid. Buy a very good or better antique for market price and the next day you can sell it for 90-120% of what you paid. Essentially antiques cost nothing! If you have saved money you might as well invest in entertaining yourself cause last I checked they aint issuing 7 year bonds at 10%.
Of all the 'man toys' out there (golf clubs, quads, boats, big screen tvs etc etc) antique guns are pretty much the only thing that can entertain you and not depreciate.
Add to it modest powder charges and cheap cast bullets and you have a day at the plinking spot that costs not much more then shooting a SS cooey.
Like anything sky is the limit on price but there are tons of excellent shooters and legitimate 'collectables' with historic signifigance that can be had in the sub 1500 range.
Don't know about everyone else but never any buyer's regret here over antique firearms aqquistions.
Go buy a POS modern sporting rifle and a made in china scope and see what the bill comes to. Next day you can sell it for 50-60% of what you paid. Buy a very good or better antique for market price and the next day you can sell it for 90-120% of what you paid. Essentially antiques cost nothing! If you have saved money you might as well invest in entertaining yourself cause last I checked they aint issuing 7 year bonds at 10%.
Of all the 'man toys' out there (golf clubs, quads, boats, big screen tvs etc etc) antique guns are pretty much the only thing that can entertain you and not depreciate.
Add to it modest powder charges and cheap cast bullets and you have a day at the plinking spot that costs not much more then shooting a SS cooey.
Like anything sky is the limit on price but there are tons of excellent shooters and legitimate 'collectables' with historic signifigance that can be had in the sub 1500 range.
Don't know about everyone else but never any buyer's regret here over antique firearms aqquistions.
It is well known that antique handguns are evil. They can cause blindness and cancer, not to mention they are a leading cause of divorce.
(DD, for gosh sakes hush up, there's too much competition already.)
(DD, for gosh sakes hush up, there's too much competition already.
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This about sums it up,.... never regretted buying antique revolvers, I love my collection and have comfort in knowing they are basically just money saved in the form of entertainment.
The legislation defines the receiver as the firearm. A breech plug is a simple bolt - and bolts are available at hardware stores.
The frame on some muzzle loaders is wood - the frame being the part that holds all of the other parts together - the breechplug only screws into the barrel and is NOT defined as a frame by anything but a bureaucrat.
Simply put - muzzle loaders should not be included in the registry.
My question to you is "who is 'they' ?" and "from where do 'they' get their authority to define the part of a muzzle loader that is a firearm?"
10x as for my previous post, I can't exactly remember but as I recall it was from the rcmp when I asked them about antique rifles, percussion caps and what not. The reasoning they said for it being the receiver was that it was the part that screws into the barrel and should be considered the "receiver". But i'm not exactly sure its true, have got some incorrect answers from them before sir.
Our laws tend to be carefully written with a 6-inch brush.
The basic "fear mode" which the politicians foster through their captive media demands that everything not in the hands of the Government must be prohibited.
Of course, Governments never get out of hand, do they?
Just ask the Jews, the Ukrainians, the Armenians and a hundred more.
And it continues to this day. A few years ago, it was Government-encouraged in Indonesia to kill people whose ancestry was Chinese. Nobody protested. Right now, there is a lunatic in Zimbabwe who encourages people to kill Whites. I haven't heard the strong international voice of the UN protesting about that one, either.
The laws ONLY make sense if you see the purpose of the law as disarming a people in order to render them helpless. And the UN only makes sense if your concept of 'majority rule' means that 51% should be allowed to victimise 49%. Note carefully that NOBODY is allowed to elect 'their' UN reps.
My only quibble the antique firearms law is that the legal definition should be expanded to include ANYTHING that makes it to 100 years old.
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The basic "fear mode" which the politicians foster through their captive media demands that everything not in the hands of the Government must be prohibited.
Of course, Governments never get out of hand, do they?
Just ask the Jews, the Ukrainians, the Armenians and a hundred more.
And it continues to this day. A few years ago, it was Government-encouraged in Indonesia to kill people whose ancestry was Chinese. Nobody protested. Right now, there is a lunatic in Zimbabwe who encourages people to kill Whites. I haven't heard the strong international voice of the UN protesting about that one, either.
The laws ONLY make sense if you see the purpose of the law as disarming a people in order to render them helpless. And the UN only makes sense if your concept of 'majority rule' means that 51% should be allowed to victimise 49%. Note carefully that NOBODY is allowed to elect 'their' UN reps.
My only quibble the antique firearms law is that the legal definition should be expanded to include ANYTHING that makes it to 100 years old.
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Hey antis why a pistol like that is Restricted
And a non-working replica would be prohib?
A few years ago my son brought me a look-alike from a souvenir shop
here in Ottawa. Non-functioning naturally. Barrel plugged solid all the way.
But now I'm afraid. Should I throw my son's gift in the garbage? (Apart from the sentimental value I like the looks of it, even though the hammer fell off and I glued it back in (the screw was broken).)
From the RCMP website: "To be prohibited as a replica firearm, a device must closely resemble an existing make and model of firearm. If it looks like an antique firearm, as defined by the Criminal Code and Criminal Code Regulations, it is not prohibited."
You should be fine.
source: ht tp://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/replica-replique-eng.htm
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