which 223 to buy? Savage or custom

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I have been into precision shooting and reloading for about a year. I am currently looking for a 223 with a fast twist 26" barrel for paper punching and varmint hunting up to 600 yds. As the title says I am considering either a savage 12FV or a custom remington. I want a rifle that will shoot 1/2 MOA consistently which is about the best of my abilities at the moment.

I am considering Savage 12FV for the following reasons:

People that own them seem to be very pleased with the accuracy. (1/2 - 3/4 MOA out of the box with handloads from what I have read)
It has a 1-9 twist rate, which is why i am not interested in a stock remington.
The price is quite reasonable.
The main drawback is that pepple seem to dislike the stock and the 10FP-LE 223 is not available with the McMillan stock.

Is the 12FV the same as 10FP-LE as far as accuracy?

I guess these are my options:

Buy a savage, upgrade and bed the stock and once I shoot out the barrel, get some work done on it and re barrel it to a 1-8 twist.
Spend the $$$, get a custom remington built using a 1-8 twist barrel (that can hopefully consistently shoot 1/4 - 1/2 MOA) .

Am I better off to save some $$$ and spending them on shooting or take these $$$ and buy the best rifle I can afford.
Which would you choose, are there any other options I should consider?

Thanks,
 
mysticplayer said:
Buy the Savage, bed it, work up good handloads with match bullets. all you could want for PD popping.

for field work, I doubt you will see the benefits of a BR setup.

Jerry
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You wouldn't go to wrong with a Savage even a Stevens 200 and stick it in a better stock.Why Not has a 223 in a Stevens 200 and one of my sons has one both will shoot under 3/4" with hardy any load development.I am sure if you worked at it it would be a 1/2" rifle or better.
 
Here's a pick of my Savage model 12bvss in .223. I switched to the Choate John Plaster Ultimate sniper stock it is pillar bedded.. It works very well for me. It has a 26" barrel and is a tack driver. I would stick to the savage for now if you are just reaching to 600 and save your money for a custom when you want to go to a larger caliber or reach further out.
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Just an opinion
 
Diver said:
Which would you choose, are there any other options I should consider?

Thanks,
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You may want to have a look at the Tikka T3. The T3 Varmint in .223 has a twist of 1-8 in a 24" barrel. The T3 Tactical in .223 also has a twist of 1-8 in a 20" or 24" barrel.

The old version of the Win Stealth had a twist of 1-9,, but they don't make them anymore.
 
I may be wrong about this but the Savage's 1:9 barrel will not reliably shoot the long range 80gr bullets! I think you will need the 8 twist barrel to be on the safe side, unless you don't intent to shoot long range. The suggestion of the Tikka with the 1:8 is sound advice IMO.
bigbull
 
i'm not sure what the 2006 mod 12 Savage varminter is selling for, but you might also consider this one. HS Precision Stock, Single shot (small port stiff receiver), right bolt, left port....perfect on the shooting bench. 1-9 twist will stablize Berger bullets up to their VLD 75gr Berger .448bc (which we carry).

http://www.savagearms.com/12PrecVarm.htm

Seems like a nice rig to start out with and expand on. penalty of 1.7 on top of the list price for the 12FV, but your getting a lot more gun.
 
buy a savage use 75 grain bullets get a good scope and your set I use my .223 out at the Winona military range out to 800 yrds with absolutly no problem except those pesky boaters .you will have to learn to read wind flags the 75 gets blown around abit but with practice it gets to be easy ,another plus is the savings with the .223 it's very cheap to reload and your shoulder isn't punched at the end of the day
 
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