Which one 308 or 30-06

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So I'm thinking of a new target toy and I am really undecided. I hunt but that will not influence my next toy. Those toys are different.

I can get brass equally and reload so I want to pool anyone who has owned both calibers and get an honest opinion on which one I should buy.

308 or 30-06, ?????

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Glockchicken
 
308 Win A tried and true longrange cartridge with lots of knowledge learned in the longrange shooting community as far a Rifle is concerned there many to choose Savage,Remington ,Winchester ,Sako,Tikka,McMillan, then there are the custom made guns
 
30-06 as it is older, and more "tried and true" for long range... if you can handle it. Gysgt Carlos N Hathcock used one in Vietnam when he was not using the 50BMG in the M-2 with a 8x Unertl scope for most all his long-range shots. His longest ones were with the 50 natch, and was "supposedly surpassed" only recently (I bet it was haha) by a Canadian sniper with a borrowed rifle from a US serviceman in the recent debacle in the middle east. He "supposedly" made a longer range 1 shot kill with a Barrett semi-auto rifle in 50BMG(might have been a single-shot version.. I paid it little attention, just to the ranges claimed for the Canadian sniper), and Hathcock still had a longer range shot. Plus, he had no rangefinder, just his own basic judgement as to the ranges at first. It was later on verified as to range, not before like the Canadian snipers was.
 
Trolling are we

creedmoor said:
30-06 as it is older, and more "tried and true" for long range... if you can handle it. Gysgt Carlos N Hathcock used one in Vietnam when he was not using the 50BMG in the M-2 with a 8x Unertl scope for most all his long-range shots. His longest ones were with the 50 natch, and was "supposedly surpassed" only recently (I bet it was haha) by a Canadian sniper with a borrowed rifle from a US serviceman in the recent debacle in the middle east. He "supposedly" made a longer range 1 shot kill with a Barrett semi-auto rifle in 50BMG(might have been a single-shot version.. I paid it little attention, just to the ranges claimed for the Canadian sniper), and Hathcock still had a longer range shot. Plus, he had no rangefinder, just his own basic judgement as to the ranges at first. It was later on verified as to range, not before like the Canadian snipers was.
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I will give Credit were Credit is Due Gunnery Sgt Hathcock was an exceptional shot and from reading his Accounts of the 50 Cal shot the 50 BMG was in a static position and was sighted in for that exact spot where he shot the Enemy soldier.
On the issue of the Longest Recorded Sniper Kill Your accounts are Full Of ####.
Fact Canadian Army has it's own 50 Cal Rifles that it does not need to borrow sub standard rifles from the US Army the Canadians are the Best Snipers in the World . the distance has been authenticated by the US Army and as such I think you need to understand the Conversion from Metric to Imperial measurements. Given the fact that a rangefinder was used makes little difference it still requires Skill to make the shoot at that distance with out the aid of a tripod mount as Gunnery Sargent Hathcock did .I seriously suggest that you research your facts before you post
 
Both can work equally well. The 30-06 will give higher velocities then the 308. The 308 is more commonly used today.

Also consider th 6mm, 6.5mm, and 7mm cartridges. Ballistically, head and shoulders over either one of these. Even a fast twist 223 will go head to head with the common 308 loadings.

Something to consider if this is just a paper puncher.

Jerry
 
If this is a "target toy" then 308 is an easier option. One nice thing is you can usually find lots of 308 milsurp for plinking at a nice price, makes for more practice, and this is a good thing. Or splurge and get both. I did.
 
Either will do, but the .308 is inherently more accurate than the .30-06. 168 grain match grade bullets and IMR4064 work well in either. In any case, buy the rifle, not the calibre.
 
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Either will do, but the .308 is inherently more accurate than the .30-06. 168 grain match grade bullets and IMR4064 work well in either. In any case, buy the rifle, not the calibre.
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I don't get it? What makes you think the .308 is inherently more accurate? I disagree completely, but I would like to hear your reasoning none the less.

Thanks

***Edit*** after a bit of research I found thishttp://www.snipercountry.com/Articles/AccuracyFacts.asp , I think it's pretty clear. Oh well, I guess I should have kept that .308 BLR afterall :D
 
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Varmit said:
30.06 has more variety in bullet weights, and if you want to use it on moose bear or elk, you got more power than the 308
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Maybe in store bought ammo. If you have the correct twist there is no reason you can't shoot 220 gr bullets from a .308.
 
7.62x 63mm or 7.62x51mm, geez what a choice 12.0 millimeters!

If you reload, you can use the same primers in both. If you reload you can use the same propellant in both. If you reload you can use the same 60 plus available projectiles in both. The important point is, do you reload? I also think it comes down to the choice of rifle you have in your posession rather than the caliber. Buy the rifle you want, then learn to reload and you will have a flexibility that you have never known before.
 
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