Who else shoots far with unsuited rifles? Semis, ultralight hunting rifles, old Wins

[Ardent]

I've built a lot of long range rigs, 30" barrelled 15lb 7mms, decked out AICS deals etc, and kind of developed a snobbery where I wouldn't even attempt to shoot "unsuited" rifles at 500-1,000 yards. I end at 1,000 as that's the longest formal shooting I've done and the end of our personal range.

In later years I've become hunting only focused except for casual milsurp competition. I stopped spending money on LR rigs to spend it hunting, but I missed the LR shooting. Quickly I found myself 500 yard shooting with a 4lb 15oz mountain rifle and 1,000 yard shooting the iron sighted, Krieger barreled Garand among other misfit rifles. It was even more fun than the heavy LR rigs for me, and proves great practice for my favourite part of the sport, hunting. A friend even hauled an SKS out and we rang 500 yard steel with junk surplus regularly, I wouldn't stand out there as a silhouette hit was almost guaranteed, a surprise to me. The ultralight mountain rifle did extemely well at 500.

Here's the Garand at 1,000 yards, didn't quite hit the standard sheet of paper, shooting match iron sights and M118 Special Ball. There are five red X'd holes in the brand new target board, one's higher and harder to spot. Target's the tiny white dot far right hand end of the strip, it's 6 feet square. Bottom target is 500 yards with the iron sighted Garand.

 

[9x19p]

Though not far by most standards, I shoot my XCR in 7.62x39 to 600 regularly.
The only similarity to your targets is that my bullets leave holes too, I've even found a few.

 

[fuzzynuts54]

That wouldnt be too bad shooting for most shooters with a decent scoped rifle, myself included. Lol. Nice!

 

[Crashman]

That is soooo cool. I have been spending lots of money on the heavy weight long range rigs too lately and wondering if my bone stock factory Rem 700 Mtn Rifle in 260 would reach to 1000 with any level of consistent accuracy. Now that I have seen this I will be trying the next time the heavy weights come out. Thanks for the inspiration!

Edit to add... I couldn't hit the ground with irons if I dropped the bullets! 500 yards with the iron sights you shot a dam nice group, congrats!

 

[rnbra-shooter]

I have a magnificent 7mmRemMag hunting rifle (a Sauer 90), which I never get a chance to shoot. It's a gorgeous piece of work, and a neighbour and I just love drooling over it and dry-firing it in my gunroom. Finally one day we decided to take it to the range and give it a go, and also show him my electronic target system at the same time.

It has been scoped in the past but at the moment there are just the (excellent) factory iron sights on it - a notch rear and post front. Do a google image search for "sauer 90 rifle" if you want to see how they're set up.

To make a long story short, after shooting it a bit at 100m or 200m, we ended up shooting it at 500m, offhand. Our target was a 6' square target frame with a 30" diameter aiming black. We figured out the correct amount of holdover (with the electronic target it was pretty quick and efficient) and were able to put the great majority of our shots into a perfectly respectably sized group. It was pretty hilarious to be able to shoot 500m offhand (have I mentioned just how badly I suck at offhand shooting?) and most of the times get a shot that would have been good enough to drop a moose.

 

[Waterloomike]

Lets see this electronic target system. Please.

Ardent, that's some very fine shooting.

Never even aimed at anything that far away. Maybe with a car.

I have some old rifles, but I think mailing the bullets would hit the target sooner.

 

[rnbra-shooter]

Lets see this electronic target system. Please.

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Lots of photos, not terribly well organized; dig long enough and you'll see the hardware (orange box on the firing line, yellow box at the target), how it's installed, how it's used by the shooters on the line, etc.

Ardent, that's some very fine shooting.

Never even aimed at anything that far away. Maybe with a car.

I have some old rifles, but I think mailing the bullets would hit the target sooner.

+1 on that - great shooting indeed Ardent. I don't know how you could even see that tiny aiming black at a 1000. The formal long range target consists of a 6' square white aiming board, with a 4' diameter aiming black - which is too small to be honest, but it's the largest practical size we can make it.

I've shot my Garand at 800 yards. It's a bone stock Korean-war vintage International Harvester, that shoots an honest 4-5 MOA but that's about it. Most of the time I was able to hit the 48" diameter aiming black, which was pretty rewarding.

 

[Ardent]

Yes, by 1000 yards you see only the target board over irons with the faintest of white specs in the center, the paper. I actually adjust my sights high and rest the entire 6'x6' target board on top of the front sight post, gives me the most consistent hold and has produced 2 MOA range groups of five out there. One of the nicest things about a target grade Garand build is it has some if the best sights ever made free, included. It's essentially a 1x scope, with precise MOA clicks (and 1/2 MOA adjustments if you have the NM hood). I routinely outshoot my scoped friends at range with that Garand.

 

[pei precision]

i shoot a marlin x7 vh in .223 at 600 was shooting coyote silhouettes at 500 last night with a 10X scope, will hold moa. i also shoot my sks at 300-500 with consistent hits 500 takes time tho the sights are the draw back.

 

[NoBiggies]

My uncle and cousin never really shot anything but there huntin rifles. There no percusion shooters but for judging and shooting on the fly there damn good. My uncle has drop deer 800 plus yards with his 25 year old Winchester 7mm.

 

[Ardent]

I think we give up early on guns that aren't dressed in LR fashion, when they'll put rounds precisely down range if the shooter's able. Biggest variable in any shooting is the operator, many including myself pass on our opportunities to improve long shooting because of a perceived lack of appropriate equipment.

 

[zupermann]

Years ago, before we lost our 500 meter range, I'd shoot my AR-15 h bar (iron sights) in prep/practice for our local/provincial service rifle match.
People who didn't know why I was there thought I was crazy (at the time, the heaviset 223 bullets were 69 grainers, unless you found a specialty bullet place/supplier).
I had about a 40 per cent overall hit rate (prone and sitting with sling support only in snap and deliberate applications) on a 18" x 22" target with standard 55 grainers.

 

[tokguy]

I think we give up early on guns that aren't dressed in LR fashion, when they'll put rounds precisely down range if the shooter's able. Biggest variable in any shooting is the operator, many including myself pass on our opportunities to improve long shooting because of a perceived lack of appropriate equipment.

I rarely visit this forum, wasn't my thing I suppose. But this one caught my eye.
I've a non-restore-able Ross M-10 with a great bbl ( Cut sadly ) that whispers to me " I can do it..."
As to how far remains to be seen, but I do live in the country...real flat country. Some of the ( somewhat rare mind you ) coulees run on for quite a ways...wind break & no-one's business in the coulee.
Not realistic? Ross M-10 is not a viable opinion?

 

[6MT]

I have loads of fun shooting my Modern Hunter out to 800m. The semi action doesn't make follow up shots easy, but is fun and pretty accurate.

 

[.284]

Heres a a sheep rifle set up for longer range practice. Bare rifle is under 6lbs and all dressed up its just over 8lbs. Using a 10x Max power scope leaves a bit of precision on the table but I use it regularly to shoot rocks and what not for practice out around the 1000yd mark
It's a 300 wsm

 

[rugbydave]

I shoot my chicom M14 (granted it's had the usual accuracy mods done and has a nice Leupy Mark 4 3.5-10)out as far as our range goes, 475yds, pretty much once a week. It'll hold 1.5 MOA in the prone, fired from a bipod with a rear bag. Shoot my Colt AR with a 3x Elcan out that far as well, she's not quite as tight, haha. Not long range by any means but fun nonetheless. Getting a gong that I can setup in the bush to stretch her legs out some more and also finally putting together a precision rig. Stoked to start shooting actual long range, haha. Target shown is at 475yds

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[Camp Cook]

I can't see good enough to accurately shoot those ranges anymore...

 

[Dogleg]

I rarely visit this forum, wasn't my thing I suppose. But this one caught my eye.
I've a non-restore-able Ross M-10 with a great bbl ( Cut sadly ) that whispers to me " I can do it..."
As to how far remains to be seen, but I do live in the country...real flat country. Some of the ( somewhat rare mind you ) coulees run on for quite a ways...wind break & no-one's business in the coulee.
Not realistic? Ross M-10 is not a viable opinion?

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I shoot my Ross out to 650 with the irons on IPSC silhouettes. Should try it farther

 

[Dogleg]

I think we give up early on guns that aren't dressed in LR fashion, when they'll put rounds precisely down range if the shooter's able. Biggest variable in any shooting is the operator, many including myself pass on our opportunities to improve long shooting because of a perceived lack of appropriate equipment.

I find the scopes quit before the rifles do. Plenty of hunting rifles have the accuracy and range, but landing the hits also requires a plan. Much past 500 that's turrets for me.