fiddler - be aware what is contents that you buy - I think most all the Lee two, three and four die sets here came with a shell holder; RCBS, Lyman, etc. did not. Dies won't do you much good without an appropriate shell holder for your press - I used to think of those as $3 or $4 items - pretty much wrong on that any more - so maybe watch what it is that you are buying, if comparing prices and deciding which to chose to buy ... I have several die sets of most brands - I can not say, at all, that one brand makes better dies than another brand - but they set up differently - not used exactly the same, one brand to other.