Who needs a 1905 MKII Ross Bayonet Front Band?

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Hi everyone

I have had great responses from the Ross MKIII bayonet front bands that I had reproduced. I would like to thank all those who purchase them from me. I will be doing another run on them shortly for those who missed out.

In the mean time, I want to see the interest in the 1905 MKII bands. I do have a pristine MKII 3* front band that I can make drawings from.

At this time I do not have a cost for them. Just wanting to see how many out there who needs them and see if it will be viable in submitting drawings.

Thanks

Lorne
 
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The rarer ones are the ones for the Mk II**, both early and late.

Those rifles have the heavy barrel, thus a larger hole.

The early "stamped" ones as I recall had only the screw up from the bottom, but there were later ones with a cross screw as well. Those are mighty rare.

Unlike the Mk III ones you had machined, these ones were stamped it appears. (not sure how you'd stamp them though...RRC had some pretty exotic machines)

Nice job on the Mk III nosecaps btw! Very glad someone finally took the bull by the horns.


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divealta said:
Hi everyone

I have had great responses from the Ross MKIII bayonet front bands that I had reproduced. I would like to thank all those who purchase them from me. I will be doing another run on them shortly for those who missed out.

In the mean time, I want to see the interest in the 1905 MKII bands. I do have a pristine MKII 3* front band that I can make drawings from.

At this time I do not have a cost for them. Just wanting to see how many out there who needs them and see if it will be viable in submitting drawings.

Thanks

Lorne
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Thanks for the images and info!

Seems from request I had so far are for the MKII 3*. From what I can gather the early bands where deep drawn and then stamped/crimped at the barrel, following with the hole cut. That is how I see it. I could be wrong too.

I think the cross bolt was added for strength for bayonet use. The MK II *** I have has a wood screw at the base, not very strong at all.

I do have a cut down MKII 2* that I will be making a full length barrel for and yes it is heavier than the MKII 3* full length I have.

The kicker is "What the demand would be?" and the cost to produce them! Dealing with a machined base that is soldered to the body could make the cost ^^$$^^

Only way to find out is to send in a drawing and go from there.

Thanks

Lorne
 
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Cantom,

Wondering if the MKII ** cap externally is the same width at the wood as the MKII *** Just a wild guess if the caps are the same except for the barrel hole and barrel stamp/crimp.

If you don't mind taking a measurement there, I would appreciate it.
 
Mk II** nosecap/upper band OD.

I measured OD on the cap (without removing it) with my vernier caliper in 2 spots.

1) Top to bottom, from top to bottom flat surface just out from the swell where the stacking swivel is
1.345"

2) Width 1" (about 2 thou under 1")

This is on a Commercial Target.

Anyone who's dealt with Rosses knows they are like snowflakes...seemingly no two the same.
 
Two? One? Of which model?

There is no universal nosecap. There are a few different ones.

Just look at the pics...3 different rifles with different stamped caps and large diameter barrels.

Add in the Mk II short rifles like the 3 Star, with the thinner barrel.

Some are harder to make than others.

And some are rarer.
 
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MkII3* is probably the most common. Could the hole be made larger for 2**s or is the whole upper arch a larger diameter to match the bigger barrel?
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I would have to do up a drawing and 3d print first to see if there will be enough room.

Cantom is right about the numerous styles and sizes.

To get better pricing I would suspect a minimum of 20 of the MKII*** reproduction bands. That was the better price point I got with the MKIII's I had made.
 
divealta said:
So how hart broken would you guys be if the front of the MKII 3* bayonet cap be open ended? Just looking at ease of construction.
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I'll be the devil's advocate here. It wouldn't look right.

And, when restoring a historic firearm, you do want it to look right.

Otherwise, why not just a cheap $5 nosecap off something else like a P14 or a Mauser?
 
Well looks like it is going to have to be drawn/stamped.The thinnest they can edm cut is almost double the wall thickness anyways. I wasn't a fan on the open face either. Just wouldn't look right!
 
So got the 1st quote for the stamp/draw. And, well I won't post the amount they wanted just for the stamp/draw mould!

I will be sending out the drawings to other manufacturers. Will keep you posted.
 
Been awhile since I started this post. But here is some info. 3d Printed a MKII *** band. To verify the size, etc. It is a rough print. Going to see if they can do edm wire on the outside and mill out the inside to keep the dimensions the same. 3d print is not hollow in this print.

Also working on a MKII *. Currently on the 3d printer. Will post pics later on that one.





 
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