who uses a recoil reducing system?

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I picked up a BT-99, but it's much too short for me. I'll need to add a butt plate.

My XT Trap has a Graco adjustable LOP butt plate on it, and was thinking of adding the same to the BT-99. Then I looked at the GraCoil recoil reducing and LOP adjustable butt system. I shot another club member's, but it wasn't really set up for me to get the best idea.

I don't think either gun are particularly heavy recoil guns with target loads, but wondering if the recoil reducing butt plate helps with fatigue if shooting many rounds a day. Or are there other benefits I'm missing?

Are they even worth the investment, or more of a gimmick? It's quite a step up cost wise. $75.00 usd for LOP butt plate, $250.00 usd for the recoil reducing LOP model.

Any thoughts?
 
When I got tired of being punched in the face by my Remington 870 every round of trap I shot, I got a Bt-99 Plus.

The Browning recoil reduction system allows me to shoot 200 rounds of trap loads in a day and be ready to go again the next morning.

Every little bit helps.
 
Most of the recoil reducing systems I've used that have the spring mechanism in the stock tend to allow the comb of the stock to rub or slide a bit across my cheek when I shoot and it's something I never cared for or got used to. I have shot a G Squared Shockmaster equipped gun and I will say that even though it's expensive, it's probably one of the few mechanical recoil reducing system that I would be happy with since the comb doesn't move when the gun is fired.

I guess you could put e mercury recoil reducer in the stock, some people think that they work well but I believe that the added weight of it does more to mitigate recoil than the actual mercury does.
 
The Gracoil recoil reducer and most others including weights add considerable weight to the butt of the gun, changing the balance completely. If you like a forward weight bias for trap you may now need to get used to a butt heavy gun. Happened to me on a TM1, couldn't make it work and finally sold the gun ( at a considerable loss).
 
I agree with m12man, the LOP issue is what's hurting you not the recoil.
The addition of a GRACOIL is definitely going to fix you LOP issue but I think the recoil reduction feature is a waste of cash.
Make it fit you correctly and you will notice significant drop in felt recoil, or shoot/load lighter loads (that's an easy fix) if recoil still continues to be an issue after the addition of the gracoil.
Just my thoughts.
 
I've been shooting trap for 35 years, the last 30 with the same guns ,Ljutic. Both have soft touch recoil reduction systems in them. Are they expensive, you bet, but worth every penny if you shoot a lot.
 
The model (Auto Buster) I have installed on my gun is made by Ken Rucker, check his site.

I have used this model for three years and never had any sore shoulder after shooting all day.
 
I’ve owned two Citori Plus trap guns with the Browning factory recoil reducer and an XT Gold which had the factory installed Gracoil system. They worked fantastic. Most of our shoots consisted of 300 target todays and those units take the fatigue out of a long high volume day. I wish they had such a device back when our club used to host an annual one day 500 singles marathon event each year in May to kick off the summer season. I have a 3200 that is going to be wearing a Gracoil unit one of these days when I get around to it.
 
Trap shooting is the" marathon " of the clay shooting games. 300 twelve gauge targets a day from 8:00 AM to 6:00 PM then shoot offs then more the next day.
Before I switched games to Sporting Clays ( 100 and done), I shot a lot of trap with a KX5 for 16 yard and caps, with a Broadway for doubles. After a season or two I had a Gracoil reducer fitted to the KX5.......In my opinion, it helped a great deal. I did not bother with the Broadway because I shot only one ounce of # 9 for first shot of doubles and most shoots only involve 50 pairs.Singles were normally 200 targets and caps 100, so the KX5 was fired 3x that of the doubles gun.
 
The absolute best recoil reducer is a gun that fits you!!!!

This is true ... I have a custom stock on my gun and recoil has never been an issue for me. Mind you, I have been called a recoil absorbing machine before (I think that is because of my rotund shape).

The adjustable recoil reducer of choice around here, these days, is the RAD system ( ... http://www.hartshooting.com/ ...)
 
When I got tired of being punched in the face by my Remington 870 every round of trap I shot, I got a Bt-99 Plus.

The Browning recoil reduction system allows me to shoot 200 rounds of trap loads in a day and be ready to go again the next morning.

Every little bit helps.

I have to agree here - while I don't find the recoil of my Pump guns excessive with trap loads, my BT-99 Plus with the Browning recoil reducing stock certainly makes shooting high volumes more enjoyable. I also find my supporting arm is less fatigued after 100 rounds or so due to the more rearward balance and hand positioning. While the Plus stock is probably unavailable to you except at a significant cost - I would say a nice rubber recoil pad which causes the stock to fit you would be sufficient, otherwise a Gracoil type system with some sort of adjustment would be excellent.
 
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