Who's still making 357 Sig chambering pistols today?

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Looks like very few pistol making companies are offering guns chambered in 357 Sig.

Sig once did in their P226 Legion. Glock did in their G32 Gen4 (still available at an attractive price)...Can some one list out who today in 2021 is still selling guns chambered in 357 Sig?

Thanks.
 
Ya pretty much a dead round unfortunately. Interesting concept that never caught on. The only ‘new’ stuff I’ve seen in 2 years has been old stock glock 31s and 226 Legions state side.
 
It was a big deal in Texas, troopers and Rangers carried it in Sig 226 I think. They went to P320 in 9mm I think.

Also US Air Marshals did use it, maybe still do.
 
I did a bit of googling on this cartridge last week. A very comparable cartridge is 10mm. There are a lot of options in 10mm.

One of the cool things with 10mm is that most semi-automatic 10mm handguns can also fire .40S&W to help you save some money. Additionally, standard factory 10mm loads are quite similar in specs/recoil to .40S&W, but you can also buy high-power "Hot" loads. It results in quite a bit of flexibility.
 
As far as I know the only factory offerings are Sig Sauer & Glock. Never really caught on at replacing the .40 despite its advantages. Better quality 9mm and the proliferation of carbines followed to more or less put it in the grave.

Andronicus said:
One of the cool things with 10mm is that most semi-automatic 10mm handguns can also fire .40S&W to help you save some money. Additionally, standard factory 10mm loads are quite similar in specs/recoil to .40S&W, but you can also buy high-power "Hot" loads. It results in quite a bit of flexibility.
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This is a joke, right?
 
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TT1900 said:
This is a joke, right?
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Not really, people actually do this, minor accuracy gripes aside 40 S&W does shoot in 10mm guns. If you think about it is like exactly like .357 and .38 special same case measurements just shorter length.

The whole 10mm loads are similar to 40S&W loads is a bit of a misnomer. 10mm was being tested by FBI as a replacement caliber but the loadings were deemed to stout so they ended up downloading in testing.

This along with the overtly long grip profile required by 10mm autoloaders resulted in 40S&W which is the FBI's 10mm loading in a shorter overall case.
 
Because rimmed cartridges space off of the rim. I don't get what the confusion is.

Rimless straight wall cartridges like the .40 or 10mm headspace on the case mouth. There is a roughly 3.5mm difference in case lengths between .40 & 10mm. If 10mm head-spaces correctly, .40cal will not.

Will the extractor hold the case to the breech face and allow it to be fired? Maybe....but it's not designed for that purpose. If we're doing dumb things with out of spec function then just dump another 3-4 grains of whatever powder you like into the .40S&W case and voila....better than a 10mm. It might work, for awhile anyways.

Don't shoot .40S&W in a 10mm as a way to penny pinch. Before you buy a 10mm make sure you're willing to feed it properly. Otherwise come bum around with us lowly 9mm shooters.

Or, to get back to the OP, if you are willing to pay to play get the much much cooler .357SIG. Something about little bottleneck rounds that intrigues me.
 
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Yes, I’ve read about it. I never got around to loading for .357Sig and eventually got out of the caliber so never experienced it myself.

That said, few of the complaints I’ve seen have been related to factory ammo. That tells me it’s a loading issue, not a problem with the round itself. Further supported when you read that a lot of the guys having trouble are using resized .40 brass while the people using factory .357Sig brass are having much fewer problems.
 
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.357 Auto like in the Glock catalogue is nothing like the 10mm cartridge. Most 10mm utilize a 180 grain bullet at a bit over 1200 fps. You can buy or load lighter 10mm bullets all the way down to 135 grain JHP's. But .357 Auto is better.
.357 Auto solidly outperforms the 9mm & 40S&W cartridges, and some say that .357 Auto has serious over penetration issues.
10mm cannot achieve .357 Auto velocities even with lighter bullets. .357 Auto 115 grain fmj's start at 1300 fps.
Glock makes the G31, G32, & the G33. Kanadian subjects can only own the G31 as our Liberal overlords have decreed the others as prohibited. Unless you are the government of course....
 
Is funny the 10mm is doing better in the market than 357 Sig. Though, it does appear (upon further research) a resurgence might be happening. As more gun makers are slowly putting out more models chambering the 357 Sig....not too long ago the Sig Legion -226..and the Sig P227 Nightmare Carry...now it's only the Sig Emperor Scorpion Carry. You can still find the Glock 32 Gen 4, 31 Gen 4..for about $750 CDN. Not a bad deal. Even the Gen 5 G19/17 cost more at close to $1000.00.

I don't know if the allure of 357 Sig is marketing. Hype. Because if we're talking about range guns...calibers...all we really NEED is the 9mm (cheap and easy to find). 45 ACP because you like the 1911 platform. 357 Magnum (or 44 Mag, 500 Mag...etc.) because "we can".

Never shot a gun chambered in 357 Sig...was just curious..But the choice of guns chambering this caliber IS hard to find. Don't know if the agencies that used Glock 32's still do (e.g. FBI..etc.) or if they've gone to using something else "standard issue". Used to be popular with LEO's and Federal LE agencies.
 
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Is funny the 10mm is doing better in the market than 357 Sig.
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It is actually pretty logical. The 10mm is very versatile and in the US it has found fauvor as a hunting/backcountry round as well. Even in Canada some use it for wilderness carry. A 200-220gr hard cast at 1200-1300 ft/sec is considerably more energy and stopping power than the 357 sig can muster. Combined with the fact you can shoot it out of a standard sized 1911 or high capacity double stack, it was bound to find a solid market niche.
 
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Don't know if the agencies that used Glock 32's still do (e.g. FBI..etc.) or if they've gone to using something else "standard issue". Used to be popular with LEO's and Federal LE agencies.
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357 SIG was never really very popular with LE agencies in US. Only the Secret Service, US Air Marshals, and Texas DPS (Highway Patrol and Rangers) really used it as well as the odd agency here and there. FBI never used it, they went back and forth between 9mm, 10mm (for about 5 minutes), .40 and now back to 9mm. Vast majority of LE agencies in North America were Glock and a lot in .40 until the movement to the 9mm in recent years.

Probably the reason you find the Glock 32 cheaper than a similar model in 9mm is the fact they have been sitting on dealer shelves longer and they want to move them, where the 9mm models are a much easier sell.
 
I think the biggest thing against the Sig round is the fact it really doesn't outperform the 9mm by much. There is tons of testing to back that up. Superior numbers on paper don't necessarily correlate with the real world.
 
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