Why aren't there any new Rugers showing up in Canada?

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I haven't seen any new ruger scoutsor guide guns at all in the last few years. All I see are 10/22's, ruger precision rifles, and ruger americans. Have they cancelled the scout/guide gun models? anyone know?
 
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Are they not phasing-out high quantity production of the M77 Hawkeye in favour of a few calibres per year philosophy, kind of similar to the #1 ? I am assuming that the American models will continue to own a larger piece of their bolt action offerings? Where's Hoyt? :)
 
Yeah, it's all about supply chain management. If they are not flying off the shelves in Canada, then the distributors will move on to things that do - they don't want stock sitting in warehouses, they want to be moving trucks between manufacturers and retailers. 10/22s and Ruger Americans are flying off the shelves. As soon as you move in to more expensive goods whose function is replicated in cheaper goods you enter the realm of the boutique. Ruger saw this with the #1 and made it a limited edition rifle with low numbers, focusing more resources and effort on the more efficient manufacturing processes of the American. The M77 is likely going the same way.

I never would have thought Winchester would bother with a "low end" rifle like the XPR slotting in below the M70, and the AB3 vs X-Bolt is similar. So is the M700/M7 and the Model 783. Savage Axis and 110 (which is strange to see the 110 in "premium" offerings, but at least it's a solid package). I think if the Sako S20 catches on, the 85 will become a boutique offering (sadly). They (Sako) have already done it with the Tikka brand in terms of streamlining things. One action, a barrel blank they can hammer in to whatever they want, one modular stock, blued or stainless. Everything beyond that is add-ons - barrel fluting, muzzle brakes, sights, vertical grips, cheek pieces, etc. Although Tikka is really an example of how to do things right, and you do pay a bit more for that, but it's worth it since they've only gotten better IMO.

So yeah, I think the M77 lineup will become a more boutique offering for the discerning hunter/shooter who wants a specific tool for the job and is willing to pay the price they command, while the stores will mostly be flooded with Americans, XPRs, 783s, T3x's and Axis's that'll fly off the shelf with Vortex Crossfires and last the average hunter/shooter a long time. Sadly, that may mean you'll need to import the one you want or place an order with a retailer and hope you get a good one.
 
I haven't seen any new ruger scoutsor guide guns at all in the last few years. All I see are 10/22's, ruger precision rifles, and ruger americans. Have they cancelled the scout/guide gun models? anyone know?

High end Hawkeye Rugers can still be ordered through reputable Canadian dealers. It may take some time,but,well worth the wait. The last Ruger M77 RSI I ordered took 2 months to come in through Gagnon's Sports in Oshawa. It arrived from the factory in perfect condition.
 
Yeah, it's all about supply chain management. If they are not flying off the shelves in Canada, then the distributors will move on to things that do - they don't want stock sitting in warehouses, they want to be moving trucks between manufacturers and retailers. 10/22s and Ruger Americans are flying off the shelves. As soon as you move in to more expensive goods whose function is replicated in cheaper goods you enter the realm of the boutique. Ruger saw this with the #1 and made it a limited edition rifle with low numbers, focusing more resources and effort on the more efficient manufacturing processes of the American. The M77 is likely going the same way.

I never would have thought Winchester would bother with a "low end" rifle like the XPR slotting in below the M70, and the AB3 vs X-Bolt is similar. So is the M700/M7 and the Model 783. Savage Axis and 110 (which is strange to see the 110 in "premium" offerings, but at least it's a solid package). I think if the Sako S20 catches on, the 85 will become a boutique offering (sadly). They (Sako) have already done it with the Tikka brand in terms of streamlining things. One action, a barrel blank they can hammer in to whatever they want, one modular stock, blued or stainless. Everything beyond that is add-ons - barrel fluting, muzzle brakes, sights, vertical grips, cheek pieces, etc. Although Tikka is really an example of how to do things right, and you do pay a bit more for that, but it's worth it since they've only gotten better IMO.

So yeah, I think the M77 lineup will become a more boutique offering for the discerning hunter/shooter who wants a specific tool for the job and is willing to pay the price they command, while the stores will mostly be flooded with Americans, XPRs, 783s, T3x's and Axis's that'll fly off the shelf with Vortex Crossfires and last the average hunter/shooter a long time. Sadly, that may mean you'll need to import the one you want or place an order with a retailer and hope you get a good one.

Well written, and I agree on all points.
 
I can think of a few factors....

1) Demand. Covid has caused demand for firearms in the USA to skyrocket. If they can sell all their production in the USA they have no incentive to deal with shipping it to us. Furthermore, the proliferation of quality budget rifles (like the American) have reduced demand for the mid-tier stuff like the m77.

2) Supply Chain issues and/or labour shortages. I don't know if they're having issues getting raw materials, but its certainly possible. Same can be said about labour, I don't know how Covid is impacting their labour force specifically but it has caused a reduction in production for a lot of industries.

3) Price. A lot of rifles in the mid-tier have seen their prices climb substantially over the last 5-8 years. It wasn't that long ago that you could get a mid-tier rifle for $500-600 (less if it was a Savage!) but now thats well within budget rifle prices.


I feel like I should note that the M77/Hawkeye hasn't seemed to be all that popular in my timeframe as a gun owner (almost a decade now). There are Ruger fans who love 'em, but everyone else seems to be lukewarm on them? In my peer group I've seen a fair number of people choose Remington, Savage, and Browning but not one has bought a Ruger M77. Lots of people I know have bought OTHER Ruger products, just not the m77/Hawkeye.
 
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Ruger has some odd pencil pushers the last 5-6 years, they use to be a good buy for the $$, but the last 5-6 years everything doubled in price.
There is very little they offer these days that isn't priced out of the market.
 
Ruger has some odd pencil pushers the last 5-6 years, they use to be a good buy for the $$, but the last 5-6 years everything doubled in price.
There is very little they offer these days that isn't priced out of the market.

Yeah... they are clearly struggling...
 
Trickling in. Picked this Hawkeye 223 up this morning.
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