Why Can't Americans Acquire Colt Canada Rifles?
- Thread starter rkm456
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They have regulations that they can only acquire firearms that have parts manufactured in the USA, therefore their imported firearms must be partly assembled and manufactured in country.
I was under the impression that things like the LPK's are American parts. Even at that it seems like something Colt Mfg would be able to facilitate like Beretta, Glock, HK, etc do for their guns. At the very least it seems like it'd be lucrative for someone like IRG to sell off some of the uppers and such down there.
Don't get me wrong, if we're forced to keep them up here it's no problem with me. Just seems odd that the biggest AR market in the world doesn't have access to one of the best.
onetwentyish
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Look up 922r Compliance, it will answer all your questions. This is the same reason we had the Tavor years before the americans, as IWI had not set up a US location yet.
Colt USA can import Colt Canada if they want to. The 922lr is based on part count, you can't have more than 10 of the followings made outside of the us.
(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
(2) Barrels
(3) Barrel extensions
(4) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(5) Muzzle attachments-
(6) Bolts
(7) Bolt carriers
(8) Operating rods
(9) Gas pistons
(10) Trigger housings
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Sears
(14) Disconnectors
(15) Buttstocks
(16) Pistol grips
(17) Forearms, handguards
(18) Magazine bodies
(19) Followers
(20) Floorplates-
If you count parts, Colt USA can easily import an upper made outside of the US to assemble an importable rifle, provided all the guts in the lower are made in the USA.
(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
(2) Barrels
(3) Barrel extensions
(4) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(5) Muzzle attachments-
(6) Bolts
(7) Bolt carriers
(8) Operating rods
(9) Gas pistons
(10) Trigger housings
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Sears
(14) Disconnectors
(15) Buttstocks
(16) Pistol grips
(17) Forearms, handguards
(18) Magazine bodies
(19) Followers
(20) Floorplates-
If you count parts, Colt USA can easily import an upper made outside of the US to assemble an importable rifle, provided all the guts in the lower are made in the USA.
BattleRife
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They can, and they do. I saw photos of semi-auto M4 carbines with Canadian made receivers posted by Americans months before any Colt Canada products were available up here.
As others have pointed out, 922r is going to prevent whole Canadian rifles being sold stateside, but they can get all the individual pieces.
GunsNotPuns
CGN frequent flyer
Indeed. I've seen numerous posts on American gun boards by Yank CC owners.
At any rate, why jump through the hoops of parts when they have the equal or better down there that's easily acquired?
P0WERWAGON
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those are made for LEO originally. LEO guns dont follow 922r rules. once they are in country, the agency sells it off when done or to fund other purchases. same as when the 416 came out. some agency's were buying the guns and then parting them out to raise funds, selling all but the receiver's and fun bits.
guns to be imported for sale must be SPORTING guns. IE anything that is cool/black cannot be imported (they actually have spelled out rules of what is considered non sporting features). all the non US AK's come in looking like a valmet hunter before they are modified in the US with US parts. thats why there are now several manufactures of AK's that were once importers.
That's when Colt USA took over Diemaco. Colt USA needed extra parts to supply their manufacturing demands. If you see any Diemaco uppers on 6920 and other rifles, it's because they used Diemaco forgings to make M4 uppers with.
Lee Enfield
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- Republic of Alberta
Colt Canada is a licensee of Colt "USA" et. Al.
Licensee's always have restrictions on their licenses regarding where they can sell their products.
Supplying complete guns and componants to Colt "USA", would result in guns "manufactured" and marketed by Colt "USA" in the USA.
In this particular case, Colt Canada required US State Department permission to sell the guns to Canadian civilians. Likely Colt Canada would also require Canadian government permission to sell complete guns into the civilian market (in any country).
In addition, complete "non sporting purpose" rifles are under US import restrictions regarding muzzle devices, magazine capacities and barrels (to name a few).
Licensee's always have restrictions on their licenses regarding where they can sell their products.
Supplying complete guns and componants to Colt "USA", would result in guns "manufactured" and marketed by Colt "USA" in the USA.
In this particular case, Colt Canada required US State Department permission to sell the guns to Canadian civilians. Likely Colt Canada would also require Canadian government permission to sell complete guns into the civilian market (in any country).
In addition, complete "non sporting purpose" rifles are under US import restrictions regarding muzzle devices, magazine capacities and barrels (to name a few).
mebiuspower
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- Morontario
^This.
American collectors really want CC until you tell them how much they are up here.
