Why do so few scopes have a 50mm objective?

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Why does it seem like the 3-9 is really the only scope that's easy to find with a 50mm objective? is there a reason to only have a 40 or 44mm?
It seems like 40 is by far the most popular. I'm not sure why people wouldn't want that little bit extra view?

I'd really like a ~6-18x50, prefer Nikon or Redfield. But not so easy.
 
Why does it seem like the 3-9 is really the only scope that's easy to find with a 50mm objective? is there a reason to only have a 40 or 44mm?
It seems like 40 is by far the most popular. I'm not sure why people wouldn't want that little bit extra view?

I'd really like a ~6-18x50, prefer Nikon or Redfield. But not so easy.

Maybe because it doesn't do anything for your FOV? With equal glass it does take in more light, but adds nothing to FOV. In return for more light you get higher rings, more weight, a bulkier rig and a slightly higher price. People buy what they want,and manufacturers build what they can sell. I've never noticed that 50s are hard to find, and use some of both. Mostly 40s though.
 
When you start to get to 50 and 56mm objectives, the hole you look through is a half centimetre higher than it is on a 40mm objective. This affects your shooting position in a negative way. 40mm is good (bright) enough for most purposes.
 
Why does it seem like the 3-9 is really the only scope that's easy to find with a 50mm objective? is there a reason to only have a 40 or 44mm?
It seems like 40 is by far the most popular. I'm not sure why people wouldn't want that little bit extra view?

I'd really like a ~6-18x50, prefer Nikon or Redfield. But not so easy.

A few reasons:

1. Cost - If made to the same quality level, they cost more to build than smaller objectives.

2. Appearance - Some just do not like the look of them, so avoid them. Manufacturers like to sell what they make, so avoid unpopular features.

3. Scope Height - Some do not have the stock to hold their cheek tight to the stock, and get their eye up to the height of a high scope.

4. Functionality - In many scopes and under daylight conditions, the 50 mm objective adds no value. Take the basic 3-9X scope. A 50 mm objective will give an exit pupil of 50/3 = 16.6mm at 3X, and 50/9 = 5.5mm at 9X. A young person can use up to 8 mm exit pupil (young eyes can open up more), while an older fart can probably only use 4mm. So in this example neither an old or young can even use the exit pupil at 3X, and only the young person at 9X. Also neither can use it during daylight, as there will be too much light even for 4mm. Bottom line is that the big objectives only help at high powers and only in dimmer light, and in some cases only for younger eyes.

On a similar topic, a lot can be made of having fully coated lenses that give 98% transmission of light instead of 95% or whatever. The reality is that in 99% of the cases the scope is used, it makes no difference, because your eye has too much light already, and will not make use of the extra light transmission.

On view, a larger objective may or may not give it. Extra view is likely only useful for hand holding on game, where you use a low power anyway which has lots of view.
 
You are looking for a feature more common on target scopes. Redfield and Nikon are making hunting scopes. Most hunters don't care about that little extra bit of light and would rather have a smaller scope with a lower mount. As the above poster mentioned a company like Sightron makes several 50mm scopes. Same goes for Falcon, and others, but you will also see many 44mm objectives with 30mm tubes in these type of scopes for the same reason.
 
Maybe because it doesn't do anything for your FOV? With equal glass it does take in more light, but adds nothing to FOV. In return for more light you get higher rings, more weight, a bulkier rig and a slightly higher price. People buy what they want,and manufacturers build what they can sell. I've never noticed that 50s are hard to find, and use some of both. Mostly 40s though.

They might take in more light but most human eyes can't utilize it anyhow. 50mm objective lenses really don't make any sense under 10x, at least for us middle aged guys.

Yup, field of view is not in relation to objective lens size at all.
 
I think there is plenty of 50mm objectives around, but with today's glass and quality of optics the 50's of years ago could very well be less bright than the 40's we see today.Just a thought.

Although I would find it very hard to go back to a 40mm or 44mm of the same scope in a 50mm, you get spoiled after a while. ;)
 
You also don't gain as much lens surface area with a 50mm VXL, as you gain with a round 50mm lens.

Maybe that's why I run a 56mm vxl :p

But to be serious, the amount you lose with the cutout is really minimal. And for those that've never tried one, you can't tell the cutout's even there. Well, not from the end of the rifle i like to be on anyways.
 
You are talking about 3-9x50? For a hunting rifle, I can't see the added value of a 3-9 with a 50mm objective. Any decent quality 3-9x40 has more than enough light gathering to work within and beyond the legal hours during which I can hunt. I'm not sure I agree with you that 3-9x50 is the most common. I'd spend my extra dollars somewhere else.
 
You are talking about 3-9x50? For a hunting rifle, I can't see the added value of a 3-9 with a 50mm objective. .

Unless you are a blonde haired blue eyed teenager there is no advantage. Once you reach middle age your pupils are lucky to dialate to 5mm. If the exit pupil on the scope is more than 5mm, well it is truly just a waste. Added weight and size for absolutely no gain.
 
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IMHO, they tend to start looking like some sort of club strapped to the top of a rifle.

If I were into long range competition, yeah, I'd be looking for every little advantage possible with optics.

For hunting any advantages are, IMHO, so marginal as to be negated by the additional cumbersomeness, and unsightliness, of a 50mm plus objective. Mostly, again IMHO, they are a product wrought by marketing that appeals to the "bigger is better" side of the male ego.

FWIW.
 
50's are nice when ur using a 24+ zoom.

It's like one member said, there a little addicting.


When ur shooting long range on high zoom your target seams more high quality than with smaller objectives.
 
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