Why doesn't someone come out with a 28 ga. pump or semi gun with a rifled barrel to fire a 45 cal. sabot slug? I'm sure that in a modern gun you could get ballistics equal to a 12 ga. with a .50 sabot, yet the gun would be lighter and handier.
Why no 28 ga. rifled slug guns?
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I see you are from Ontario therefore if you read the Ontario Hunting Regs you will see you are only allowed to hunt big game, ie moose, deer, bear with a slug of 20ga. or larger only.
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The 20 gauge rule applys to the use of buckshot. You can use a .410 for deer as far as I know.
That's not quite what the regulation says:
http://www.canlii.org/eliisa/highli...ws/regu/o-reg-665-98/latest/o-reg-665-98.html
In two places the regulations further distinguish between shot and "ball" when referring to shotguns.
Slugs smaller than 20 gauge can be used however not buckshot. Whether they should or not is up to the hunter. I know I wouldn't.
On the original topic, 28 gauge slugs were made years ago by CIL and there are apparently some small makers of 28 gauge slugs in the U.S.
Of all the gauges the 28 has the smallest variety of cartridge and shot options. It's a speciality gauge compared to the others.
My dad had a 28 gauge about 50 years ago. He shot a good many deer with round balls he cast himself.
My memory is a bit faded, but I remember something about brass shells. He had a .577 Snider at the same time, so maybe I just mistook those bullets for 28 gauge. I was so young when he got rid of those guns that all I ever saw were the old leftover shells. I can't imagine an old shotgun being strong enough to fire a .577 bullet.
Anyone out there have any knowledge of brass shotgun shells?
My memory is a bit faded, but I remember something about brass shells. He had a .577 Snider at the same time, so maybe I just mistook those bullets for 28 gauge. I was so young when he got rid of those guns that all I ever saw were the old leftover shells. I can't imagine an old shotgun being strong enough to fire a .577 bullet.
Anyone out there have any knowledge of brass shotgun shells?
Actually, I was thinking of a specialized deer gun with a fully rifled barrel similar to what most manufacturers make in 12 ga.and some now make in 20. I'm sure the ballistics could be worked up to equal a 12 ga. with 350 gr. sabot slugs, but the entire gun could be smaller and lighter, as well as handier and less bulky than one of the larger gauges.
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If you are suggesting trying to duplicate 12 gauge ballistics in a lighter gun I hope your fillings are well cemented in.
There isn't a large enough market for a 28 gauge slug gun. Everyone already has 12's and 20's and for the most part turning them into slug guns is a 300$ extra barrel not a 500$ plus new gun that fires some new strang e hard to get load.
It's an interesting concept however with very few exceptions 28 gauge guns that would be suitable for conversion to a slug gun are built on 20 gauge frames. You wouldn't be gaining anything over a 20 gauge slug gun in weight or bulk and potentially giving up terminal performance.
Funny someone should mention 28ga slugs. I have 10 that I bought at Epps. They are CIL and have been in my safe for years.
It occurred to me last week that my kids would likely sell them upon my demise so I might as well shoot them since I'm sure to enjoy them more then the next guy.
I have a 687 Beretta sporting clays 28ga with 30"bbls. and was a bit hesitant to shoot them but thought what the heck. I only shot 3 and at 50 yds I could put them in a 5" circle on a 10" thick post. They all went through the post.
Too bad there arn't more around, I think they'd be a blast to shoot on vermin and maybe deer?
It occurred to me last week that my kids would likely sell them upon my demise so I might as well shoot them since I'm sure to enjoy them more then the next guy.
I have a 687 Beretta sporting clays 28ga with 30"bbls. and was a bit hesitant to shoot them but thought what the heck. I only shot 3 and at 50 yds I could put them in a 5" circle on a 10" thick post. They all went through the post.
Too bad there arn't more around, I think they'd be a blast to shoot on vermin and maybe deer?
Stop at 3 Keith.
They are rare and desirable.
I have a couple of boxes as well and when I got them I was going to shoot them but a buddy told me that he has seen them @ $50 per 5 round box
eek at gun shows I decided to keep them. That's not to say they sold for that though. He also mentioned that they can be used in a .577 Snider but I have no idea what that would entail.I have my grandfather's H&R 28 ga. single shot from the early 20th century which I used as youngster (55+ years ago) as my first shotgun. I still have that shotgun. I also have 28ga shotshells that are the waxed paper hull (all that you could buy in the '50's) as well as a few paper hull shells with what appears to be a round lead ball in them. I believe that my grandfather used it for deer in New Brunswick.
I have a fair number of 28 gauge loaded balls as well as 28 gauge loaded slugs.Most are C-I-L Imperial but there are a few Remington there as well.
C-I-L manufactured paper 28 gauge shotshells under the Imperial name until the late 60,s or early 70,s.They were orange but the later ones were red before the final change to red plastic.I believe the 28 gauge was the last C-I-L Imperial shotshell to be converted to the plastic hull.
