Will coyotes keep the deer away?

Trimmer 905 said:
Holy Crap!! Yeah,OK if you say so. Laugh2 They're ripping up garbage pails in broad daylight on collection day and dog walkers are carrying Bear spray in our residential neighborhoods east of Oshawa. If we get up early enough,we can sit on our front porch with morning coffee and watch them. There used to be many feral cats that roamed the neighborhood,not anymore. Where do you live? Downtown Toronto....oh wait,there's lots down there,too.
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Really think about this statement, and then please explain to me how that's a problem.
 
DVXDUDE said:
My theory is I try to kill as many as I can when pelts are prime in fall and winter. Therefore the coyotes I kill cant hunt deer in the winter when it's the easiest and they cant kill fawns in the spring or reproduce.
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If you're killing them legally, I'm not going to make any sort of value judgment on it. But if you're killing them as a means of deer protection, you're wasting your time.
 
There is a video floating around of a male coyote bringing 22 or 24 fawns to the den. Tell me how this doesn't affect deer population you nay sayers.
Every coyote I see when carrying a firearm is maggot food.
 
DVXDUDE said:
My theory is I try to kill as many as I can when pelts are prime in fall and winter. Therefore the coyotes I kill cant hunt deer in the winter when it's the easiest and they cant kill fawns in the spring or reproduce.
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here their coming further and further into the city I don't care what time of year it is any yote that cross's my path will be a dead one in prime or not and with what ever I have on hand be it a crossbow(deer hunting), shotgun with a load of number #4 birdshot(turkey hunting) or a .22(small game hunting). I am building a rifle just for the little buggers though
 
tigrr said:
There is a video floating around of a male coyote bringing 22 or 24 fawns to the den. Tell me how this doesn't affect deer population you nay sayers.
Every coyote I see when carrying a firearm is maggot food.
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I posted an article where it shows biologists across the east coast of America doing an extensive data analysis over decades. I can only lead the horse to water.
 
rkm456 said:
Really think about this statement, and then please explain to me how that's a problem.
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Your edit in bold print really isn't a problem per se,but,when adults have to stay with kids until the school bus picks them up and people can't walk dogs in the evening without Coyotes chasing them down and attacking pets,that's a problem.
 
Trimmer 905 said:
Your edit in bold print really isn't a problem per se,but,when adults have to stay with kids until the school bus picks them up and people can't walk dogs in the evening without Coyotes chasing them down and attacking pets,that's a problem.
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So how often are people actually being attacked?
 
Here in the east, wildlife biologists will tell you that coyote-wolf hybrids are evolving ever larger so that they can easily kill and eat the whitetails, but there is a local belief that pairs are already doing that.
 
Big Bad said:
Here in the east, wildlife biologists will tell you that coyote-wolf hybrids are evolving ever larger so that they can easily kill and eat the whitetails, but there is a local belief that pairs are already doing that.
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That's turned out to be largely a media created myth. The science is pretty clear. If memory serves the biggest coyote on record runs south of 60 lbs.

Edit: Did a quick google, apparently the record for coyotes was 75lbs out of Wyoming sometime in 1937.
 
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Yes they will both occupy the same territory.
Yes coyote will kill some of the deer
Yes more coyotes will move in if you kill the ones that are there.
Yes you should kill them also.
 
rkm456 said:
So how often are people actually being attacked?
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Depending on the neighborhood (ours borders farmland and green space) it's not uncommon anymore.People see them in their yards all the time. Exact numbers I can't give because Small Animal Control and Police won't say how many complaints they get. Some of the neighbors are feeding them if you can imagine that. They've been reported to OMNRF,but,who knows what they're doing about it. Our area is "non-discharge" of firearms close to residential subdivisions,we need to go 1/4 mile down the road). There's even been the odd Black Bear roaming around ripping up garden sheds looking for garbage. We have a few families of Fishers around,too,along with Deer,opossums,skunks and lots of raccoons. If you like wild animals,it's amazing to live here (between Newcastle and Newtonville).
 
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Trimmer 905 said:
Depending on the neighborhood (ours borders farmland and green space) it's not uncommon anymore.People see them in their yards all the time. Exact numbers I can't give because Small Animal Control and Police won't say how many complaints they get. Some of the neighbors are feeding them if you can imagine that. They've been reported to OMNRF,but,who knows what they're doing about it. Our area is "non-discharge" of firearms close to residential subdivisions,we need to go 1/4 mile down the road). There's even been the odd Black Bear roaming around ripping up garden sheds looking for garbage. We have a few families of Fishers around,too,along with Deer,opossums,skunks and lots of raccoons. If you like wild animals,it's amazing to live here (between Newcastle and Newtonville).
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So once a week? Once a month? A coyote maiming someone doesn't go unreported in local media.
 
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