Will prices for Russian made firearms change?

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Obambam has signed an exec order to ban the import of AK47 (and other Russian made guns- I think) into the US of A.

Will this have a price effect here in Canada?
 
We don't have access to these anyway... I don't know how many more SKS and Mosins we can take?! USA ones have brutal import marks too... I wouldn't be surprised if Canada adopts similar trade restrictions with specific Russian companies.

No more new Makarovs in the interim tho... Maybe we get them?
 
Since you can reasonably assume that there is 100,000-125,000 SKS rifles in this country, I do not expect there will ever be a shortage of used specimens for sale.
I also wonder how many more are actually available for import into this country given the recent bottom-of-the-barrel specimens now available.

One thing is for certain, prices of SKS and AK will sky-rocket in the USA.
 
The Kurgan said:
Since you can reasonably assume that there is 100,000-125,000 SKS rifles in this country, I do not expect there will ever be a shortage of used specimens for sale.
I also wonder how many more are actually available for import into this country given the recent bottom-of-the-barrel specimens now available.

One thing is for certain, prices of SKS and AK will sky-rocket in the USA.
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One importer alone brought in over 100,000 SKS's over the past decade or so. Add in the Chinese imports, and all the "small time" dealers who individually may have only brought in 5-10K at each - but there's a lot more of them out there than you realise, and the number of SKS's in Canada is easily over the 200K mark.

As for the US Ban affecting pricing of new made guns - maybe. Izhevsk/Izhmash makes a lot more than just AK's and Saiga shotguns. They have a lot of sub-brands, including Baikal, and the prices for those are already quite reasonable. U.S. importers saw this coming and locked in 4-5 year supply agreements, which are unaffected by the Obama order, so there will still be production moving to the U.S. for quite some time.

But Izhmash might feel the pressure and offer some deals to other importers in other countries, just to keep production volumes up.
 
grelmar said:
One importer alone brought in over 100,000 SKS's over the past decade or so. Add in the Chinese imports, and all the "small time" dealers who individually may have only brought in 5-10K at each - but there's a lot more of them out there than you realise, and the number of SKS's in Canada is easily over the 200K mark.

As for the US Ban affecting pricing of new made guns - maybe. Izhevsk/Izhmash makes a lot more than just AK's and Saiga shotguns. They have a lot of sub-brands, including Baikal, and the prices for those are already quite reasonable. U.S. importers saw this coming and locked in 4-5 year supply agreements, which are unaffected by the Obama order, so there will still be production moving to the U.S. for quite some time.

But Izhmash might feel the pressure and offer some deals to other importers in other countries, just to keep production volumes up.
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The US has banned all trade with any of the Kalashnikov family of companies. There is no 4-5 year supply agreements that can avoid this. In fact, all Importers or distributors who have any of the guns in stock that the Russians have sent on consignment
or have not been paid for cannot be sold yet. In fact, the banking system has shut down any way possible to pay for them.
The importers who have any unpaid for product has to contact the US Treasury Dept. for disposition of all the guns.
Also, Kalashnikov owns Molot and a few ammo companies. Gonna get ugly soon.

See item 374 and 375 here in the FAQ. More will happen now after that airliner was shot down.
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Sanctions/Pages/answer.aspx#374
 
Old Outlaw said:
The US has banned all trade with any of the Kalashnikov family of companies. There is no 4-5 year supply agreements that can avoid this. In fact, all Importers or distributors who have any of the guns in stock that the Russians have sent on consignment
or have not been paid for cannot be sold yet. In fact, the banking system has shut down any way possible to pay for them.
The importers who have any unpaid for product has to contact the US Treasury Dept. for disposition of all the guns.
Also, Kalashnikov owns Molot and a few ammo companies. Gonna get ugly soon.

See item 374 and 375 here in the FAQ. More will happen now after that airliner was shot down.
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Sanctions/Pages/answer.aspx#374
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Yes basically put if any company has firearms from the affected sources that are fully paid for and the source has no still vested interest they are free to still sell those. If the companies who ordered these haven't fully paid for them or are selling on consignment and the now banned source still has a vested interest in that supply, they have to contact the government to see what they need to do, but they then have to put those on hold and can't sell them, they have to contact the government for direction on what to do with these. I may very well mean that these will be lost to the ban and they may be out of pocket on these I would assume. Like OO said, gonna get nasty, we will just have to wait and see how the chips fall. It is speculation at this point...
 
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