Win 94 25-35

Ditto on 117 gr. hornady RN in my 1928 win 94 with factory sights. 25.5 grains of imr 3031 is full power load. Killed dozen and a half deer on the queen charlotte islands with that load and factory load over the years - up to 150 yds away. Bang, flop, dead....no muss, no fuss.

Did try some hornady 117 gr spitsers - dont bother - too hot and not worth wrecking the gun over it.

I did load some trail boss - no recoil at all - very comfortable - but bullet was at least 14 inches low at 100 yards compared to factory load. Have to change out front site if any shooting of trail boss load needed. Such a pain so why bother...

Need to put a different ie. tang site on rifle if shooting different loads since barrel sights can be used for one load and tang sight for another load.

Bore Cleaning nightmare -
By the way, for gun cleaning i've used hoppes #9 for years to get copper fouling out (or so I thought?). Changed to Birch-Casey's bore scrubber - i've been scrubbing the barrel for going on 3 weeks - 2/3 times a day run a few soaked patches/brush through the barrel then let it sit so a few hours - still getting bright blue on the patches from decades of old copper fouling finally getting brought out. Unreal the amount of stuff that has to come out to get it down to bare metal in this slightly pitted bore. Eventually, once all the copper fouling out, will treat barrel with one of the ceramic bore coatings to reduce fouling and fill in the pits in the bore.

anyone else have similar nightmare experience with old, old copper fowling in the barrel??

Oh yeah, Lois's Bullet Barn has 85 grain hard-cast lead bullets to consider.....

sj4570
 
Bore Cleaning nightmare -
By the way, for gun cleaning i've used hoppes #9 for years to get copper fouling out (or so I thought?). Changed to Birch-Casey's bore scrubber - i've been scrubbing the barrel for going on 3 weeks - 2/3 times a day run a few soaked patches/brush through the barrel then let it sit so a few hours - still getting bright blue on the patches from decades of old copper fouling finally getting brought out. Unreal the amount of stuff that has to come out to get it down to bare metal in this slightly pitted bore. Eventually, once all the copper fouling out, will treat barrel with one of the ceramic bore coatings to reduce fouling and fill in the pits in the bore.

anyone else have similar nightmare experience with old, old copper fowling in the barrel??

Oh yeah, Lois's Bullet Barn has 85 grain hard-cast lead bullets to consider.....

sj4570

I have had exactly the same experience. Used Hoppes 9 for years on a 7 Rem mag. Got to tthe point it was showing pressure signs with a load I had been using for years. The gun has lots of rounds through it so figured the barrel was going off and hte throat area did feel rough when cleaning.

As I had switched to Wipout a couple of years back just gave it a clean with that when I got back from the range. The cooper fouling was unbelieveable. Started cleaning it with Wipeout to get the copper out of it, took weeks of daily soaking too, and then used Butch's Bore shine for a bunch more weeks to get out the stubborn powder fowling that had built up in the first 10 inches. The barrel is back to shooting like brand new, and no more roughness in the throat area. Still use Hoppes to wipe down and rust proof the exterior bits but sure don't use it as a bore cleaner any more.
 
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