Win 94 30 30 sight upgrade?

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45C

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Hello
I'm wanting to upgrade the sights on my Winchester 94 ,30 30.
Thinking of a William's set or something Similar. Something that's faster to acquire the target.

I find the original are getting to hard to see.

Any recommendations?

Thanks

Brian.
 
I am 65 - iron sights in general, especially rear sight on the barrel, just about not too useful any more. About 40 years too late, I started to learn to use aperture rear sight - that still works fine, I think. I have a side mount Williams on the rear and a green fibre optic on the front on my Win 94 - pops into view very nicely. I installed same on my little Ruger 10/22 - one or maybe both were called "Fire Sight" set - not real sure, but idea is the same - rear aperture and front fibre optic
 
Yes,looking for something with a fire dot on the front.
Not sure what you mean by side mount?
Can I just replace the rear sight without any modifications?
 
reb said:
The 94 has 2 small tapped holes on the left side of the receiver for a side mount peep sight
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Got ya,
I have two sets of scope mounts for that purpose, but I'd rather just change out the original back sight if possible.
 
I had heard of that being done, a peep site replacing the rear buck horn or semi-buckhorn - but do not think that you gain anything about aperture for doing that. Apertures are very fast to use, once figured out that you simply look through them, not at them - both eyes open - looking at what you intend to shoot. But the effect only works fairly close - like within 3 or 4 inches of your eye, I think. Depending on your age and vision, maybe just swap to a fibre optic front for now - amazing difference right there, I found (like I said, about 40 years too late!!!) Some guys prefer Red, I find the bright Green works better for me, but I also know I have an amount of Red/Green colour blindness, although I would never have know except for those tests...
 
45C said:
Got ya,
I have two sets of scope mounts for that purpose, but I'd rather just change out the original back sight if possible.
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Maybe a misunderstanding - the base unit of the Williams attaches to the side of the receiver, but the arm with the sight reaches up and over, with the aperture is actually dead centre with the bore - just ahead of the hammer - so not like a side mount scope mount, although uses same holes...
 
45C said:
Got ya,
I have two sets of scope mounts for that purpose, but I'd rather just change out the original back sight if possible.
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A Lyman or William's FP receiver sight attaches to those holes. Either is a huge improvement over the factory sights without going to a scope.
 
I have access to the tools and knowledge to install XS,but rather be able to install original sights,and put back to original,if someone ever desired that.
 
I can't comment on your particular rifle but I can give you my experience with williams sights in general. I've had 2 marlin 336 rifles over the years and installed the williams FP-336 "fool proof" aperture sight and was very happy and satisfied with them. They were used at the range and hunting and were wonderful.
 
These are available. Contributing dealer Ellwood Epps has them for 40.00 bucks. They might work for you. They are for Winchester 94 and Marlin 336 with 3/8" dovetail cut.

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Darryl
 
An aperture, as close as possible to the eye is the best solution. No matter how bright the green dots are on an open rear sight, old eyes can't focus on three things. I have used aperture sights on several rifles for years now, they work much, much better than any open rear sight.
 
I still have 20 20 vision, but just not up close.
Anything that's close to my eyes ,get a bit blurry.haha
 
45C said:
I still have 20 20 vision, but just not up close.
Anything that's close to my eyes ,get a bit blurry.haha
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From what I am finding, that is exactly how rear aperture sight works - they are blurry. Some sort of light physics plays a game - you focus your eye on the front sight - to see it as clearly as you can - clearest, sharpest view is caused by the physics - only happens dead centre in the aperture - you don't look or think about the aperture - let the magic happen - just concentrate to see that front sight as sharp and as clear as you can - rear aperture is a blurry rim, if you even notice it - even if the target gets a bit blurry. Had a former boss who spent his last tour in USMC as shooting instructor - that "focus on front sight" is Marine way of doing it since before WWI... Meant to be done with both eyes open - training your brain to mix two images - target is clear through left eye, front sight is clear through right eye. I do not know how a bulls-eye target shooter would describe it, but above description will certainly work with 30/30 at whatever ranges you would use it... It is possible, at my level of practice, that I actually close my left eye at the moment of firing - I am not sure - but the "theory" is supposed to be that both eyes stay open...
 
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