Win model 12 in 16 gauge/Ithaca FWT 12 gauge values

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As above, both of these are pretty rough with surface rust, pitting and beat up wood. The Win mag tube seems to slide with the pump action. I have never handled one of these before so am not sure if it was assembled properly in the time I had to inspect it. The Ithaca has rust at least a finger length inside the barrel. Without a proper cleaning first it is hard to tell if there is pitting. Some surface rust on the receiver is like fuzz. Any idea on values? Are these just parts guns now?
 
Send me a Pm if you would like to sell them. I refinish guns that are hurtin.

EDIT: sorry I think I miss understood your add sounds like there not yours eh. Model 12 winchester are nice guns. Slamfire capable. I have a 12 gauge one. Great guns but hard to find parts for them because they were so durable. (maybe thats why winchester went out of business). Expecially 16 gauge models as they are not common. The ithaca is also a great gun but a little rust in the bore is not a big deal as your shooting lead shot. Just clean it and it should be fine. If there is pitting on the receiver and the wood is beat up then there only good for a truck gun. I would pay $75-90 a piece max.
 
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You would really have to show pics of both for any kind of realistic appraisal. I have seen model 12's priced at around $250-$300 on the EE and Ithaca 37's going for about the same or less. With both a lot depends on barrel length, choke and condition. Both the Winchester 12 and the Ithaca 37 are among the best pumps ever made but the advent of steel shot for waterfowl hunting really knocked their value down, at least in Canada.
 
Just a quick update here too. I acquired both of these shotties today. I shot the Ithaca last week hunting grouse and it functioned just fine. Shoots a nice tight pattern. Great for grouse. This Ithaca was made in 1956 and I am amazed at how well it cleaned up. It has a 30" barrel. Even though it appears to have a steel receiver it is very light and carries well. It has a leather lace up "recoil pad"/butt protector on it. The only weird thing is that the trigger guard mounted safety works backwards compared to any other I've seen like it. I don't know if they made lefty versions of this gun but the safety is definitely configured to put in the fire position by pushing the pin from the left side of the trigger guard.

As for the Winchester Model 12 in 16 gauge; it cleaned up even better and did assemble properly. It appears in better shape than the Ithaca. The action has about 30% of the blueing left but the barrel is 95% with a few freckles and is 28" long. It was made in 1939. It too has the leather butt protector and came with the same type of half size leather gun case as the Parker I describe in the thread above. I am going to field test this one over the next few days. Other than the cost of shells I suspect it is going to make a heck of a grouse gun. It is heavier than the Ithaca, mainly in the action area. Both of these are going to be very difficult to part with, which was the original plan.
 
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Just a quick update here too. I acquired both of these shotties today. I shot the Ithaca last week hunting grouse and it functioned just fine. Shoots a nice tight pattern. Great for grouse. This Ithaca was made in 1956 and I am amazed at how well it cleaned up. It has a 30" barrel. Even though it appears to have a steel receiver it is very light and carries well. It has a leather lace up "recoil pad"/butt protector on it. The only weird thing is that the trigger guard mounted safety works backwards compared to any other I've seen like it. I don't know if they made lefty versions of this gun but the safety is definitely configured to put in the fire position by pushing the pin from the left side of the trigger guard.

As for the Winchester Model 12 in 16 gauge; it cleaned up even better and did assemble properly. It appears in better shape than the Ithaca. The action has about 30% of the blueing left but the barrel is 95% with a few freckles and is 28" long. It was made in 1939. It too has the leather butt protector and came with the same type of half size leather gun case as the Parker I describe in the thread above. I am going to field test this one over the next few days. Other than the cost of shells I suspect it is going to make a heck of a grouse gun. It is heavier than the Ithaca, mainly in the action area. Both of these are going to be very difficult to part with, which was the original plan.
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The 37 is a great upland gun and it sounds like yours was fitted with an aftermarket southpaw safety. The 37 was real popular with lefties due to the bottom ejection. The model 12 are a beautifully made gun as well but a little heavy, like you said. Sounds like you have the same problem as me, I buy a gun with the intention of flipping it to make a few bucks. And then I like it so much that it ends up staying in my gun safe. Personally, for all the money you would get out of them, I would keep them. They really DON'T make them like that anymore.
 
Rick, PM me your email addy and I can send some pics. Honest truth is that now that I've tried this shotgun I doubt I can part with it either. 16 gauge is such a great grouse bore it's hard to believe it isn't more popular.
 
The Ithaca 37 original safety is reversible the only production firearm that will allow that conversion all so it is capable of the infamous SLAM FIRE.
 
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