Winchester 1886 Deluxe Value

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Can anyone tell me the value of the following:

My uncle has an original 1886 Deluxe Winchester that I can’t find a lot of information on. The serial number is 25### which puts the manufacture date as 1888.

It is in excellent condition for a gun of this age and has a light patina in the usual spots, but other than that the case hardening on the receiver and lever is still there and most of the bluing is still on the barrel and loading gate.

It has the following features:

- 26” half round, half octagon barrel in .38-56 calibre
- button (half) magazine
- pistol grip fancy stock with cheek piece
- Brass (chrome plated) shutzen style hooked butt plate
- Original sights

All the screws and small parts are in excellent condition. There are no cracks in the wood, and the bore is still bright with good rifling.

Thanks
 
I was briefly looking at a "Gun Digest" annual a couple of days ago and scanned over an article regarding an 1886 "Deluxe" ... can't recall the details but was very nice looking...I think they may have mentionned a value but don't remember, sorry...fwiw
(I am sure it is a pretty "high ticket" item to the right collector)
 
Not worth squat!!!
I'll help you out & trade you something!!
What do you want?? first born?? wife?? my house?? :D

That is a fairly valuable gun. It would be worth twice whatever it's worth of course if it was a 45-70!

I'm surprised Meana hasn't stepped in here. It is imposable to put a accurate value on this gun with-out at least good pics! I would suggest you PM him or Casull with pics :)


I'm gonna take an uneducated stab at value here in Canada anyway :rolleyes: & say $2500-3000. but please don't quote me I'm not real sure how accurate that it? Meana please correct me if I'm way out :)
 
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**sigh**
This reminds me of the 1886 a guy was selling locally a few years back. Full octagon, chambered in 50-110. He wanted roughly the price of a Kia for it though.
 
check out some American sites, ie guns america, e-bang, doug turnbull hallowell etc. if it is as good as you say, they, the yanks, will pay. Calibre, unusual features, barrel length, half mag verses full, set triggers, schuzten but plate etc can vary value considerably. Some go as cheap as $5000 up to over $10000 us. Good luck getting that here. Plus try to contact winchester collectors in the states. good luck and keep us posted.
 
In good shape I've seen these go for well over 5 grand, with all the special order features I'm sure it would be 10k.
 
senior said:
Not worth squat!!!
I'll help you out & trade you something!!
What do you want?? first born?? wife?? my house?? :D

That is a fairly valuable gun. It would be worth twice whatever it's worth of course if it was a 45-70!

I'm surprised Meana hasn't stepped in here. It is imposable to put a accurate value on this gun with-out at least good pics! I would suggest you PM him or Casull with pics :)


I'm gonna take an uneducated stab at value here in Canada anyway :rolleyes: & say $2500-3000. but please don't quote me I'm not real sure how accurate that it? Meana please correct me if I'm way out :)
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Sorry senoir but was on the tractor all day.
senior is correct about the caliber, those Americans want the 40 & 50 calibers and tend to pay less for a 30 caliber. A 33 WCF is almost 1/2 of a 45-70. The other 2 big factors are finish and originality. If the original butt was a cresent and the shutzen style hooked butt was added it will affect value
Remember the 30-30 you talked about before,
senior said:
:eek: WOW...two RARE 28" barreled 94s in the same day :confused:
Pics please :)
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because you said it was so rare I told the guy to measure again and turned out to be a standard 26"
Would like to see a pic though
Meanea
 
Oh come on Meana, so how close am I :D

From this statement....
" and most of the bluing is still on the barrel and loading gate."

I am gathering it's a more worn 86 as my experience is they have a much better blueing than the other levers of that era.
"Most of the blueing" if that equates to 80% then I am assumeing likely the reciever is 30-40%, then while it's certainly a nice gun it's far from minty.

Useing US values here in Canada is just not even relative unless you plan on taking it to the states to sell, in which case there's no point asking on a cdn board for a value!
 
I just saw two of the RCMP 1886's in .45-70 change hands in Ottawa over the last 2 months. (these are the full wood musket type 1886's) One was complete except for the saddle ring and pretty beat up, went for $2000 - only took ONE DAY to sell it.

The second was near mint - about the condition described above. US Blue book is 10K, this one was priced at $8500 if I recall. Pretty sure it sold too.

In Canada, it's the "RCMP connection" that helped these sell. But in the US, they would bring the same money - possibly more - because of rarity to the many Winchester collectors and the .45-70 chambering.

I would conservatively estimate a non-.45-70 1886 in great shape that hasn;t been restored or refinished or monkeyed with somewhere in the $5000-6000 range in the USA. Here in Canada, maybe $3000 on the right day to the right buyer.

As much as I hate history being exported, your uncle would clean up at auction much easier by getting it exported to the US.
 
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Claven2 said:
I just saw two of the RCMP 1886's in .45-70 change hands in Ottawa over the last 2 months. (these are the full wood musket type 1886's) One was complete except for the saddle ring and pretty beat up, went for $2000 - only took ONE DAY to sell it.

The second was near mint - about the condition described above. US Blue book is 10K, this one was priced at $8500 if I recall. Pretty sure it sold too.

In Canada, it's the "RCMP connection" that helped these sell. But in the US, they would bring the same money - possibly more - because of rarity to the many Winchester collectors and the .45-70 chambering.

I would conservatively estimate a non-.45-70 1886 in great shape that hasn;t been restored or refinished or monkeyed with somewhere in the $5000-6000 range in the USA. Here in Canada, maybe $3000 on the right day to the right buyer.

As much as I hate history being exported, your uncle would clean up at auction much easier by getting it exported to the US.
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Wasn't the "RCMP" model the 1876 NWMP in 45-75 and not the 1886??
Meanea
 
Yes you're right Meanea, the 1876 was an beefed-up version of the Model 1873. The 45-75 is a bottleneck round.
My 2¢...


Meanea said:
Wasn't the "RCMP" model the 1876 NWMP in 45-75 and not the 1886??
Meanea
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senior said:
Oh come on Meana, so how close am I :D

From this statement....
" and most of the bluing is still on the barrel and loading gate."

I am gathering it's a more worn 86 as my experience is they have a much better blueing than the other levers of that era.
"Most of the blueing" if that equates to 80% then I am assumeing likely the reciever is 30-40%, then while it's certainly a nice gun it's far from minty.
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The receiver will have 0 blue on it as it is a case frame made before 1900. All "tin" parts (loading gate, 2 locking bolts,mag)and the barrel are blue, all steel parts are cased. Frame, lever, hammer, forearm cap etc
Meanea
 
Deluxe 86

If you feel the 86 is all original, which it could be? as all those features were available on special order,you should contact the Buffalo Bill museum in CODY, Wyoming send them a money order for $100 U.S, they will take some time to get back to you, but if they authenticate the piece as original, and possibly the original owner, with their documentation, you would have no problems selling into the U.S, as the piece is classified as an antique firearm chambered for an obsolete cartridge, under these conditions. you will not need any paperwork to export, the rifle could fetch a figure between 4 to 10 grand. Regards Bully.
 
sbound said:
Can anyone tell me the value of the following:

My uncle has an original 1886 Deluxe Winchester that I can’t find a lot of information on. The serial number is 25### which puts the manufacture date as 1888.

It is in excellent condition for a gun of this age and has a light patina in the usual spots, but other than that the case hardening on the receiver and lever is still there and most of the bluing is still on the barrel and loading gate.

It has the following features:

- 26” half round, half octagon barrel in .38-56 calibre
- button (half) magazine
- pistol grip fancy stock with cheek piece
- Brass (chrome plated) shutzen style hooked butt plate
- Original sights

All the screws and small parts are in excellent condition. There are no cracks in the wood, and the bore is still bright with good rifling.

Thanks
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I would like to thank Steve for letting me buy this gun.
Meanea
 
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