Winchester 1892 Carbine
- Thread starter BCOD
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Epps has 'em.
So Winchester = datsun?
Not been my experience at all with the 1892 but whatever! Dosen't the Japanesechester have a tang safety? To make it safer??
Oh man I was trying to stay out of this, but I cant. I have owned them all. I had a Browning B92 (no tang safety), it was a great rifle, but not as nice as the Japanese Winchesters. The fit and finish on the new Winchesters is the best on any rifle I have ever owned. The Chiappa.....um........well lets just say the Winchester is like a beautiful woman, it just gets better with age, the chiappa is like putting lipstick on a pig......
Um, Japanesechester as opposed to Wopchester? Like, if you're gonna throw shade based on nation of manufacture, at least make sure it makes sense to do it.
Chiappa doesn't hold a candle to the Miroku made Winchesters. Not even close. The Miroku guns are as good or better than Winchesters have ever been.
There's a good reason it's easier to track a Chiappa down while the Winchesters are sold out...
Another vote for Miroku. Excellent fit and finish. Worth every penny. I fully understand the traditionalists here though. Unfortunately, there is no going back to the days of hand fitted Winchesters in America. And any attempt to buy an original 92 in excellent shape is simply too costly.
Opinions are like arseholes... everyone has one, but you don't need exposure to them just because they have one.
I own a chiappa 1892, not like the others chiming in with opinions because they're keyboard warriors that read this or that. Or they owned a chiappa 22 or something that has no bearing on an 1892.
My chiappa 1892 is my personal favorite firearm that I own out of all my guns. It is a beautiful case hardened beauty with good wood graining. It shoots perfect and has no flaws. Mine is in 45 colt. Don't shy away from a chiappa 1892 because some schmuck that's never owned it chimed in on the interweb. I had my bore reamed .100" deeper to make it capable for light loaded .454 casull ammo and it loads them perfectly fine even though it wasn't even designed for a longer cartridge. The only thing negative about my rifle at all isn't to speak to anything about chiappa, it's about the 1892 design... I wish it could have a nice rear peep sight. Chiappa stayed very true to the original design... even more so than winchester did. Winchester added a safety that doesn't belong there, chiappa did not.
Rossi is another brand that has a reasonable product. Not as pretty as they are a little cruder fit and finish, but just as reliable and just as many keyboard warriors claiming crap without having owned one. Well I had one in an 1892 as well and I regret parting with it.
I own a chiappa 1892, not like the others chiming in with opinions because they're keyboard warriors that read this or that. Or they owned a chiappa 22 or something that has no bearing on an 1892.
My chiappa 1892 is my personal favorite firearm that I own out of all my guns. It is a beautiful case hardened beauty with good wood graining. It shoots perfect and has no flaws. Mine is in 45 colt. Don't shy away from a chiappa 1892 because some schmuck that's never owned it chimed in on the interweb. I had my bore reamed .100" deeper to make it capable for light loaded .454 casull ammo and it loads them perfectly fine even though it wasn't even designed for a longer cartridge. The only thing negative about my rifle at all isn't to speak to anything about chiappa, it's about the 1892 design... I wish it could have a nice rear peep sight. Chiappa stayed very true to the original design... even more so than winchester did. Winchester added a safety that doesn't belong there, chiappa did not.
Rossi is another brand that has a reasonable product. Not as pretty as they are a little cruder fit and finish, but just as reliable and just as many keyboard warriors claiming crap without having owned one. Well I had one in an 1892 as well and I regret parting with it.
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- Alberta Cowboy Ranges
More originals at gunshows than you can shake a stick at for 1/2 the price of a new Japchester...most of them are "well broke in" but still usable.
As usual, the original intent of the post gets hijacked into a debate. I guess I am guilty too.....
To attempt to answer BCOD's original question, the miroku Winchesters are excellent. I have them in 16" and 24" barrel lengths (357 &44mag) and I am very happy with them. I sold the 20" short rifle 44 mag because I found the crescent butt a bit brutal on my shoulder after 20 rounds or so.
As far as some of us being keyboard warriors, I cant comment. What I can do is provide my opinion, whether it makes me sound like an arsehole or not.
Browning B92 src 44 mag: very good carbine. accurate. front sight was kind of cheapo. wood was shiny and proud to the metal. didn't like the aluminum barrel bands.
Chiappa trapper 357 mag. nice case hardened coloring. beautiful wood. weak hammer spring. didn't cycle very nice. Maybe I got a bad one?
Rossi trapper stainless 454 casull. only chambered a round about every 3 strokes of the lever. unacceptable for a rifle carried for bear protection. returned to store.
Rossi trapper stainless 44 mag. neat little gun. functioned perfectly. crude finish on action and wood. wood stain leached out onto everything when it got soaked in the rain.
Rossi 20" stainless 44 mag. neat gun. as above but that ugly safety switch ontop of the bolt bugged me every time I looked at the sights.
Original 1907 mfg Winchester 1892 24" round barrel rifle in 25-20, smooth as butter and a beautiful rifle.
There ya go, my two cents worth. If you can afford the new Winchester and can find one, go for it and try to wear it out.
To attempt to answer BCOD's original question, the miroku Winchesters are excellent. I have them in 16" and 24" barrel lengths (357 &44mag) and I am very happy with them. I sold the 20" short rifle 44 mag because I found the crescent butt a bit brutal on my shoulder after 20 rounds or so.
As far as some of us being keyboard warriors, I cant comment. What I can do is provide my opinion, whether it makes me sound like an arsehole or not.
Browning B92 src 44 mag: very good carbine. accurate. front sight was kind of cheapo. wood was shiny and proud to the metal. didn't like the aluminum barrel bands.
Chiappa trapper 357 mag. nice case hardened coloring. beautiful wood. weak hammer spring. didn't cycle very nice. Maybe I got a bad one?
Rossi trapper stainless 454 casull. only chambered a round about every 3 strokes of the lever. unacceptable for a rifle carried for bear protection. returned to store.
Rossi trapper stainless 44 mag. neat little gun. functioned perfectly. crude finish on action and wood. wood stain leached out onto everything when it got soaked in the rain.
Rossi 20" stainless 44 mag. neat gun. as above but that ugly safety switch ontop of the bolt bugged me every time I looked at the sights.
Original 1907 mfg Winchester 1892 24" round barrel rifle in 25-20, smooth as butter and a beautiful rifle.
There ya go, my two cents worth. If you can afford the new Winchester and can find one, go for it and try to wear it out.
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I have a stainless 20" barreled LSI Puma M92 in 454 Casull it also shoots 45 Colt.
I had Peter at Rusty Wood Trading Company in Mission BC fine tune it for cowboy action competitions and bear defense the action is smooth and flawless.
I shoot from 200gr anemic cowboy 45 Colt loads to 405gr WLNGC 454 Casull loads in this rifle everything functions perfectly I have never had it jam up.
Only negative was the factory rear fiber optic sight it was horrendous worst rear sight I've ever used I swapped it out with a factory Marlin 1895GS rear sight left the front fiber optic post.
It is very accurate and fun to shoot my son packed it loaded with 300gr XTP's while we were deer hunting last Sunday it holds 10 45 Colt and 9 454 Casulls.
We also have a blued 16" barreled Rossi M92 Trapper model in 44mag its action is not as smooth as my Puma he bought this rifle with his own monies but he is saying he now prefers the stainless Puma so he's thinking of trading his Rossi towards a left hand bolt action rifle he's only 11 years old and has a LH bolt Savage in 243 already so he's not sure what he want to go for yet.
My all time favourite lever handgun cartridge rifle was a 23" barreled Marlin 1894 Cowboy in 45 Colt this was the coolest lever gun I have ever owned.
I had Peter at Rusty Wood Trading Company in Mission BC fine tune it for cowboy action competitions and bear defense the action is smooth and flawless.
I shoot from 200gr anemic cowboy 45 Colt loads to 405gr WLNGC 454 Casull loads in this rifle everything functions perfectly I have never had it jam up.
Only negative was the factory rear fiber optic sight it was horrendous worst rear sight I've ever used I swapped it out with a factory Marlin 1895GS rear sight left the front fiber optic post.
It is very accurate and fun to shoot my son packed it loaded with 300gr XTP's while we were deer hunting last Sunday it holds 10 45 Colt and 9 454 Casulls.
We also have a blued 16" barreled Rossi M92 Trapper model in 44mag its action is not as smooth as my Puma he bought this rifle with his own monies but he is saying he now prefers the stainless Puma so he's thinking of trading his Rossi towards a left hand bolt action rifle he's only 11 years old and has a LH bolt Savage in 243 already so he's not sure what he want to go for yet.
My all time favourite lever handgun cartridge rifle was a 23" barreled Marlin 1894 Cowboy in 45 Colt this was the coolest lever gun I have ever owned.
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- The Conservative part of Ontario
Notice how the folks who actually have the Miroku love them. I had a chance to have a close inspection of the Miroku rifles a few years back. They are impressive. I own an original 92, and if I had the coin, I'd buy a Miroku. Both fit, and finish, are awesome. Never got the chance to fire any of them, but I expect they shoot better than the originals.
Far to much assumption that because it's made in Japan it's not good. Years back that was true, but Japan now makes some of the worlds best products.
The Miroku's I handled were absolute top quality firearms.
Far to much assumption that because it's made in Japan it's not good. Years back that was true, but Japan now makes some of the worlds best products.
The Miroku's I handled were absolute top quality firearms.
