Winchester 1892 Saddle Carbine (With Pictures) & 1895 Rifle

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I recently traded some items for two Winchesters, one is an 1892 saddle ring carbine in 44-40 and the other one is an 1895 is in 303 British.
The 1892 manufactured in 1907 is in VG condition with a really bright bore. I really like the ladder rear sight, as it adds to the guns looks.
The wood is VG but doesn't have any nice figuring in the butt or forestock. There is a very tiny sliver of wood missing at the wrist where the wood meets the top tang on the left side. Someone painted a black tip on the forestock but that can be removed. The front barrel band has a hole in the bottom probably for a sling swivel as the butt stock also has a loop for a sling swivel. The metal has turned brown with age, but the inside of the 20" barrel is really bright. There are a very few minute pits but would have to really look for them. I would have thought a 100 year old rifle would have a sewer pipe for a barrel. The action is smooth and I can see why everyone likes them, but wouldn't be much of a deer gun.

The 1895 has a 24" barrel in 303, crescent butt plate, plain wood and manufactured in 1905.
The bore is in excellent condition and I am wondering if it has been replaced. I can't find any caliber markings, any writing, or Winchester proofs on the barrel like the 1892. It also has a ladder rear sight.

I don't know much about Winchesters as I am more of a military collector.
What would they be worth?
I am still looking for a Portuguese 1941, K98, for a reasonable price.

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Sounds like a couple of nice rifles.
If your deer hunting requires shooting past about 75 yards, and mine almost never does, then a .44-40 may not be much of a deer rifle. All anyone ever did with the .44-40 was kill literally millions of deer, bears, elk, moose, polar bears, muskox, caribou, and such. Seriously, though, the cartridge isn't powerful by modern standards, but it actually is a good short-range deer rifle.

I read somewhere that quite a few Winchester '95s had their worn-out barrels replaced with Enfield barrels. That could be the case with yours.
 
Concerning your Winchester 1895, the 30US (30-40 Krag) and 303Br came standard with a 28" barrel. A shorter than standard barrel could have been ordered, but is very rare. As noted above, I too have seen a few 303s with Enfield barrels. Many 303s ended up burnt out in the breach (throat), and barrels swapped....mercury primers. Given yours does not have the Winchester barrel address or proofmarks, etc, it is likely the barrel was replaced.
Enjoy shooting the 92....44WCf is a fun little cartridge to shoot. Also killed alot of game, but does have its limits as stated above.

Cheer,
Matt
 
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