Zedbra.........You may find that the cross pin holding the firing pin has bent or worn and is allowing too much forward travel of the firing pin, this may be easily solved with a new and harder cross pin. One can always shorten the firing pin protrusion as well if the slot in the firing pin is worn and not the cross pin. These early post 64 rifles had a lot of problems, stamped followers, poor heat treating of some parts, soft pins where they should be hard ones and on and on and on..........
Winchester 1894 questions - firing pin and extraction
- Thread starter Zedbra
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Well, went into Reliable today - no spring on hand but gave me a number to a shop in Edmonton to try. Called that shop, said I need a minimum $30 order and the spring is only $7. It was also mentioned that Winchester no longer makes new ejectors for this calibre - so if it breaks or wears - good luck.
As for cross pin - there is only the one pin I removed (which also attached the handle) - nothing was holding the firing pin into the bolt, it freely slid forward and back.
As for cross pin - there is only the one pin I removed (which also attached the handle) - nothing was holding the firing pin into the bolt, it freely slid forward and back.
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- NW Ontario
There should be a small pin (1/16th diameter +/-) on the side, holding the firing pin from coming out the back of the bolt.
One of the pins holds the extractor in. The one you removed is the lever link pin, necessary to disassemble the rifle.
Interesting - perhaps there within lies the firing pin issue. I will pull the gun apart on the weekend and see which pin is broken. Thank you.
I just looked at the pics I took of the bolt and watched a few videos on Youtube - all the firing pins just slid right out the back - there is no roll pin holding it in
1:02 mark - https://youtu.be/gmEmfmhchhY
14:07 mark - https://youtu.be/SchLLP4-vSk?list=PLaBST_jD4qYRU7sdNKWxBNjlrIzHtlmuM
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- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
It's my understanding that the stamped lifter can be replaced with the machined one. That may resolve the ejection issues.
Be careful with the firing pin retaining pin. It's soft, (or at least mine is) and really easy to bend, or peen over, particularly when re-installing.
Be careful with the firing pin retaining pin. It's soft, (or at least mine is) and really easy to bend, or peen over, particularly when re-installing.
OK, that is a commemorative, so it has all the features of a classic post '64 rifle.
The ejector spring needs replacement. It has collapsed, and is not applying pressure to force the ejector forward.
In the post '64s I've had a part, the firing pin is retained by the same larger diameter pin that connects the lever to the bolt. No separate firing pin retaining pin at the rear of the bolt as found in pre'64s.
Those blackened firing pin indents are leaking. Not good.
The "normal" indents aren't as normal as they should be. Looks as if there is an extra little dimple in the bottom of the indent. What is the firing pin tip like?
The ejector spring needs replacement. It has collapsed, and is not applying pressure to force the ejector forward.
In the post '64s I've had a part, the firing pin is retained by the same larger diameter pin that connects the lever to the bolt. No separate firing pin retaining pin at the rear of the bolt as found in pre'64s.
Those blackened firing pin indents are leaking. Not good.
The "normal" indents aren't as normal as they should be. Looks as if there is an extra little dimple in the bottom of the indent. What is the firing pin tip like?
Thank you for this response. The firing pin looked normal to me, but this is the only lever I have ever taken apart. Maybe there is a correlation between the firing pin and ejector spring - I will see if I can get Reliable to bring in that spring for me (and order an extra while I'm at it).
- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
Interesting that a good number of the cases have marks I presume were made by the ejector at time of firing. Those loads are stout.
Has the headspace been checked?
Has the headspace been checked?
No, I have not had that checked and I do not have neither the tools nor know-how to do it. When I get the ejector fixed I will try a few rounds, see what happens. The chamber did look a little rough to my eye, but perhaps I am looking for things as the initial quality of this Win hasn't been overly impressive but I have never had any others apart to compare.
