Winchester 1906 chamber spec

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I'm hoping someone will be able to help me out on this one.
I have refinished and reassembled a 1915 1906. Unfortunately upon firing the chamber is noticeably out of spec.
The cracked case is an old dominion round but the bulged 2 are federal rounds.
I realise that 22lr is not exactly a high pressure cartridge but I'm I crazy to get functional and leave it or do I have it bored and slaved?

Thanks
Aaron
 

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I took some more measurements as 22wrf was suggested but the front 2/3 or the case only swells to .230.
It looks as though the back end of the chamber has been pitted out. it's causing extraction issues. just wondering if I can open it up a bit to allow extraction and keep firing or if I should have it bored?
 
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Is it a .22 short possibly?

If it were, it still would not cause that.

At some point, someone who should have known better looks to have run a drill bit in to the chamber to clean out rust, a peened over edge, or some similar fault, and chewed out the side of the chamber.

Pretty much three options.

Replace the barrel, reline the barrel, or reline the chamber end only of the barrel.
 
A reline can be done at home with a few special tools and lots of caution.
I have done it and one needs to go slow.
However, getting liners is the tricky part now.
For a one-off job, it's probably not worth it to source a liner, and get or borrow a pilotted drill bit, and reamer.
 
Yeah, given the shortage of available liners, I would suggest that lining the chamber would likely be the best odds of a practical solution.
 
Is it marked 22 WRF? that is not 22 RF you know, but there is a major problem there, looks like the bolt is not locked, but on a pump, no; or as Trev said , chamber buggered,
You should be able to see that damage with a light / mirror, What is the bore like( sewer pipe?)
I know a good old smith that makes his liners out of old cooey barrels, those old barrels seem to always be good for some reason.
 
I had a Remington Model 12 that was similar. Cases would split and the bullet would barely exit the barrel. The rifle belonged to my uncle, and I was told he put many, many rounds through it. The mild steel chamber had become oversize. The bore still looked half decent....
 
[h=1]Winchester Model 1906[/h] From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Winchester Model 1906
TypeSlide-Action Rimfire rifle
Place of originUnited States
Production history
DesignerJohn Browning and Matthew Browning
ManufacturerWinchester Repeating Arms Company
Produced1906-1932
No. built731,862
VariantsWinchester Model 1890, Winchester Model 62
Specifications
Caliber.22 Short, .22 Long, .22 Long Rifle
ActionSlide-Action
Feed systemTubular magazine. Capacities: 22 Short, 15 cartridges; 22 Long, 12 cartridges; 22 Long Rifle 11 cartridges.[SUP][1][/SUP]
The Winchester Model 1906 was a .22 caliber slide-action takedown rifle manufactured by the Winchester Repeating Arms Company from 1906-1932 with a total production of 729,305 built.
[h=2]History[/h]


The Winchester Model 1906 was designed as a more inexpensive companion to the popular Model 1890, the main differences being the 1906's flat shotgun-style butt plate and rounded barrel, as opposed to the 1890s crescent butt plate and octagon barrel. When the Model 1906 first became available, it was chambered exclusively for the .22 Short cartridge, however this was modified after serial number 113,000 (in the second year of production, 1908) when it was made to cycle .22 Long and .22 Long Rifle interchangeably in order to ensure the rifle's continued popularity.[SUP][2][/SUP] There were three different variants produced by Winchester; the .22 Short Model, the Standard Model, and the Expert Model.[SUP][3][/SUP] The .22 Short Model was made until 1908, when the caliber modification came about. It was distinguishable by its flat, plain slide grip. The Standard Model was introduced after the 1908 change, and featured a grooved slide grip, while the Expert Model, the deluxe version produced from 1918 to 1924, had a plain fluted slide grip and a pistol gripped stock. The Expert Model was a favorite of Theodore Roosevelt's children and cousins.[SUP][4][/SUP] Although production ended officially in 1932, a small number of Model 1906 rifles were built out of spare parts left in the factory until 1936. The last known serial number is 847,997, which does not match the number of rifles sold. This is attributed to the fact that large blocks of serial numbers were skipped during production.[SUP][5][/SUP]
 
If the bore is good, the chamber could be sleeved. If the bore isn't, have a full length liner installed.
Would it be cost effective?
You have a worked over rifle; its value would be as a shooter. How much is it worth?
 
Is it marked 22 WRF? that is not 22 RF you know, but there is a major problem there, looks like the bolt is not locked, but on a pump, no; or as Trev said , chamber buggered,
You should be able to see that damage with a light / mirror, What is the bore like( sewer pipe?)
I know a good old smith that makes his liners out of old cooey barrels, those old barrels seem to always be good for some reason.

The bolt latches up on the forward stroke of the pump, and the trigger won't release until it does. At least, on the ones I have buggered around with.

Which makes them a lot of fun to burn through the ammo, slamfiring through a magazine full, as fast as a semi auto! :)

Every one I have seen that was marked as a WRF, has been modified to LR, usually with a liner, and a filler block in the cartridge lifter to limit the lenghth of the cartridge to LR dimensions.
To go S, L, LR, you need to graft in the cartridge stop lever that allows the different length cartridges to work.
 
There's no such thing as a 22 wrf in a 1906 only the 1890's and it doesn't matter the length of cartridge. All of mine will reliably feed and fire short, long and long rifle. In fact you can mix them in the mag and fire them all. Some one ruined the chamber with a drill bit or file or pick. It isn't safe to fire because you'll get powder burns and maybe lose an eye.
 
There's no such thing as a 22 wrf in a 1906 only the 1890's and it doesn't matter the length of cartridge. All of mine will reliably feed and fire short, long and long rifle. In fact you can mix them in the mag and fire them all. Some one ruined the chamber with a drill bit or file or pick. It isn't safe to fire because you'll get powder burns and maybe lose an eye.

Then they were 1890's.

Better than having them for tomato stakes.
 
Friends bought one for $5 at a farm auction in the 60's.
It started to fire when closing the action so their dad said to get rid of it.
The barrel was plugged with a patch 12 inches from the muzzle and molten lead was poured in.
The bore was filled with shotgun powder and the lead was pulled from a 22 LR.
The gun was strapped to the side of a granary and the action closed with a string from the opposite side . . . failed to fire!
A string was attached to the trigger and this enabled them to fire the round.
The lead moved out of the muzzle about one inch but they never found the bolt . . . mission accomplished!
 
Friends bought one for $5 at a farm auction in the 60's.
It started to fire when closing the action so their dad said to get rid of it.
The barrel was plugged with a patch 12 inches from the muzzle and molten lead was poured in.
The bore was filled with shotgun powder and the lead was pulled from a 22 LR.
The gun was strapped to the side of a granary and the action closed with a string from the opposite side . . . failed to fire!
A string was attached to the trigger and this enabled them to fire the round.
The lead moved out of the muzzle about one inch but they never found the bolt . . . mission accomplished!

That's kind of sad.

So much effort to destroy something, that could have been fixed for taking five minutes to look over the trigger and sear.
 
Friends bought one for $5 at a farm auction in the 60's.
It started to fire when closing the action so their dad said to get rid of it.
The barrel was plugged with a patch 12 inches from the muzzle and molten lead was poured in.
The bore was filled with shotgun powder and the lead was pulled from a 22 LR.
The gun was strapped to the side of a granary and the action closed with a string from the opposite side . . . failed to fire!
A string was attached to the trigger and this enabled them to fire the round.
The lead moved out of the muzzle about one inch but they never found the bolt . . . mission accomplished![/QUOSSA

Yes, sad indeed ;((
 
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