Winchester 67 sight upgrades?

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Hello I own a Winchester 67 which is very sentimental, but I am looking for a little sight upgrade, I find the leaf sight a tad bit insufficient for the inherent accuracy. something that I would not need to modify heavily the rifle.

Thanks!
 
Quiet post. Does yours have the 11mm/3/8" dovetail grove along the top of the receiver?
If yes then you could put a scope on it.
If not then you are limited. You would have to see if you could mount drill and tap ring bases or have the dovetail grove milled.
Other option would be a drill and tap mount for an aperture sight like that used on the Savage Mark II. That would give you target style accuracy. But to D&T or mill a groove is going to be pricey. May be best to keep the old girl as a trophy piece and look into options to give you what you want.

For instance, I wanted aperture sights and scope options. Did the research, taking into account gunsmithing costs etc. Ended up with the Savage Mark II FVT. Came with the Williams aperture sights pre-mounted and already D&T for scope bases. $25 for the bases, then rings and setup the scope myself. All depends on what you want to do.
 
Perhaps a Win 68 ahead of the receiver peep sight and a Lyman 17 front sight. The Lyman 17 isn't hard to find but the dovetail mounted rear peep may be a little more " difficult" and is still only a very small diameter disk with a hunting size aperture. Beyond that, with the costs associated, is D & T'ing and mounting the appropriate Lyman 57. Kayceel
 
IF the rear dovetail for the rear sight is a 3/8", you can check out Williams sights. The have some options like Kayceel's idea that slip into the rear sight and could give you a more modern rear sight. The WDOS dovetail sight. Thing is you have to know the height you want and the adjustments are limited. The ramp you have now should give you from 25 to maybe a 150 yards. The Williams would be set to zero at a certain range but you can choose different styles of notches.

So your quest isn't exactly easy.
 
No sadly it does not have the dove tail grooves it would of been to easy. I have been looking into peep sights just not sure what would fit. I had fate that someone would answer :)
 
Beermaker said:
IF the rear dovetail for the rear sight is a 3/8", you can check out Williams sights. The have some options like Kayceel's idea that slip into the rear sight and could give you a more modern rear sight. The WDOS dovetail sight. Thing is you have to know the height you want and the adjustments are limited. The ramp you have now should give you from 25 to maybe a 150 yards. The Williams would be set to zero at a certain range but you can choose different styles of notches.

So your quest isn't exactly easy.
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the leaf sight I have on it atm works well I got my first couple rabbits and grouse with it. Shoots very strait and my wife loves it (which is very important).
I am mainly aiming to shrink the the grouping a bit and be able to get clean kill a slightly longer ranges (75m+). But like I wrote on the last post everything is bone stock no premade options to mount things.
 
A REAL peep sight is one that sits back near the eye of the shooter. So it either needs to be mounted to the receiver or be something like a tang mounted rear sight similar to those seen on some lever action rifles.

Mounting a peep sight up at or around the position of the regular rear notch style isn't really doing the full job of a proper rear positioned peep. It really becomes simply a hole shaped notch instead of a "v" or "U" shape.

But from what you say about the receiver if you want to mount a proper rear target peep sight then some drilling and tapping will be required. Are you willing to do that?
 
The Williams peep is a good one. Just have to get the proper mounting base, has more to do with flat or radius mounting.
Check out the Savage Mark II FVT for a visual. I comes with a large diameter disk and a small hole. Now on this note...
It is not indexed for ranges like the ladder sights you see on the Enfields. You could go through the process of marking index lines for various ranges but not practical. You would also have to do some carving of the stock.
The receiver and barrel look like a on piece assembly but thick. You could have a couple of scope bases(or a rail) put on and use rings that offset the scope to the rear. Weaver list the win 67 for bases.
You have to look into the geometry of the bolt handle for scope setup as there may be an interference issue.

Good luck and lets have an update eventually when/if you get it done.
 
Just a thought. Instead of tweaking a sentimental rifle I noticed you are in NB.
Check out http://www.thegundealer.net/files/43136.JPG should already be D&T for scope bases. Put on a 5 rd mag (more comfortable than with a 10), put on a bipod and a 4x scope. It would probably cost you $100 in fees to D&T anything to the 67. The Stevens is just the "no accu trigger" version of the Savage.
 
If you're looking for a really nice match level peep sight fitting the sight will depend on the way the shape and how the bolt handle fits and moves.

Some time back I found an Anchutz rear peep at a gun swap show. I then went looking for a rifle to mount it onto. There were a couple of big buck options but for the most part the sight being mounted on the dovetails caused the bolt handle to be blocked by the sight being in place. I finally found a CIL/Anchutz model 125 which readily accepted the dovetail mounted peep sight.

Williams makes a somewhat similar dovetail fitted sight. But it's hard to say if you would run into bolt handle issues or not. A safer option would be the Williams target sight which fits onto a side bar that needs to be drilled and tapped to the side of the receiver and which also requires some trimming of a little bit of wood.

You can see examples of these sights in their catalog which is at;

http://www.williamsgunsight.com/gunsights/pdf/2014_Williamsweba.pdf

Look at the options found on page 15. As well look over the other options starting from around page 12.

Lyman has a few options as well.

The sad thing is that you're likely going to also have to replace the front sight with something taller. But the good news is that if you replace the front with a Lyman or similar tube style with the inserts that you'll get a further increase in accuracy potential.

Here's a picture of the CIL/Anchutz 125 that I upgraded. It went from a typical "V" notch rear and bead style front to what you see in these two pictures. With this setup and a bit of testing it was easy to produce roughly 6 inch groups on a gong at 200 yards when shot rested from a bench. A buddy and I took turns spotting on the fresh paint and planting hit after hit. It was an overcast and calm day when we did this. And I'd say that roughly 2/3's of the shots were within a 4 inch group.

Pictures!



 
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