Winchester Announces New 21 Sharp Rimfire Cartridge
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AskMeAboutMyBandcamp
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Neat. Seems handy, but I wonder how this is better than .22?
Yup and like a lot of the new whiz bang cartridges it will probably be around long enough for people to buy a rifle for it then it will be discontinued leaving people scrambling to find rounds for it.If I was going to buy a rifle chambered for it I d wait a few years to see if it really does offers enough usefulness to make it stick around and if it is popular enough for the shops to keep it in stock.Also the price of a box of ammo must be reasonable as well
Interesting, these look to be a cross between 22LR and 22 Winchester Auto. I've never found Winchester rimfire ammo and accuracy to go well together in the same conversation, but I'm down to try because I haven't learned my lesson with 17M2.
It's who's making the guns chambered in it that is equally important to me...and ammo can't be $0.50-$0.75 a trigger pull because Winchester wants all their R&D money back in the first month.
If it shoots, and a CZ/Tikka can be had chambered in it....count me in. I'll check back around Sept.2025. lol
It's who's making the guns chambered in it that is equally important to me...and ammo can't be $0.50-$0.75 a trigger pull because Winchester wants all their R&D money back in the first month.
If it shoots, and a CZ/Tikka can be had chambered in it....count me in. I'll check back around Sept.2025. lol
So they've remade 22lr, but with a jacketed bullet?
Great for places that require non-lead ammo, but otherwise I don't really see the point.
Considering how successful 17wsm was despite being a ballistically superior cartridge to it's competition, I can't see this getting all that popular.
Great for places that require non-lead ammo, but otherwise I don't really see the point.
Considering how successful 17wsm was despite being a ballistically superior cartridge to it's competition, I can't see this getting all that popular.
It just got announced, so no, not yet
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Interesting. Might just get one if the ammo shows up and as always depending on prices. And because I always want to get something new.
apexanimal
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Nice let's get an NR mp7 lookalike with 30 round mags plz.
As I understand it from this article: https://www.americanhunter.org/content/review-winchester-21-sharp/, the only reason for introducing the 21 Sharp cartridges is a ban on lead bullets in California. The 21 Sharp bullets are made from copper. Since all 22LR bullets are based on lead, the California lead bullets ban, left poor guys in California who shot 22LRs, without any ammo available. The article also suggests that a ban on lead bullets will be slowly coming to other jurisdictions. We will see. The MSRP per box: $US15-$US25/100-rnd. box. Horrendously expensive for our Canadian pockets.
Based on the info in that link it looks like the 25gr is all copper, but the 34gr is jacketed.
commissar_lubi
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I'm curious to see more third-party reviews of this calibre. This optimization for lead-free ammo is interesting when we consider that .22LR lead-free ammo tends to shoot rather poorly, but I'm a bit confused as to what advantages this brings compared to .22WMR
It looks like both 22wmr and 17hmr have lead-free ammo available?
That only really leaves suppressed applications - which even then, the lead free 21sharp is gonna be much too fast to be subsonic if the lead free option is 25gr and the 34gr option is already going 1500fps, and if they do make subsonic ammo it is not going to pack much of a punch unless they up that bullet weight a bunch (which then has issues with OAL/case capacity)...
If they can get production up high enough to bring costs of 21sharp ammo below what 22wmr and 17hmr cost then I could see this being popular, but I have troubles imagining a scenario where this round is adopted by enough people to ever get the ammo that cheap...
You can thank California. I believe that you have to use lead free bullets to shoot outside now. Don't want any buzzzards, condors or eagles to get secondary lead poisoning. Don't worry about the birds, they're not in any significant danger, but it is the California greenies attempt to make it costly and more difficult for hunters. They hope to discourage discourage hunters so they quit.
