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- The Conservative part of Ontario
Winchester Buys the farm? No more Winchesters?
- Thread starter John Y Cannuck
- Start date
- Location
- calgary alberta
Word in Vegas at last years SHOT show was that Winchester was building a new plant. Being as they are part of Browning arms for the last few years I find it hard to believe they are folding up. I know that ammo and components was hard to get this year, the reps were stating that the facility was being retooled and upgraded. I have been lied to a few times in the past however
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I believe the plants in Japan will handle the manufacturing.
However the Winchester name is only licensed until next year. Time will tell what will come of the firearms industry in the near future.
After being involved as a dealer in the past along with my small collection today it is a sad time indeed.
Don
I believe the plants in Japan will handle the manufacturing.
However the Winchester name is only licensed until next year. Time will tell what will come of the firearms industry in the near future.
After being involved as a dealer in the past along with my small collection today it is a sad time indeed.
Don
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- Peterborough ON
Green FYI
Winchester (Olin) manufactures the ammunition.
US Repeating Arms and Browning are ownend by FN Herstal a company in Belgum. They are able to use the Winchester brand name under a licence from the Olin company. When USRA took over the manufacturing of Winchester brand firearms, Olin allowed them to use the name under contract and now the contract is up I think in March 2006.
What will happen after that? Time will tell.
I have read that the town of New Haven wants Winchester out. And that the manufacturing costs in the States are to high for them to compete in the Industry.
It all started last year when they announced that the 9422 was at it's end and would not be produced after 2005-2006. We should have seen the light come on then.
I do like my Winchester rifles and it would be a sad thing to see the manufacturing of them end.
Winchester (Olin) manufactures the ammunition.
US Repeating Arms and Browning are ownend by FN Herstal a company in Belgum. They are able to use the Winchester brand name under a licence from the Olin company. When USRA took over the manufacturing of Winchester brand firearms, Olin allowed them to use the name under contract and now the contract is up I think in March 2006.
What will happen after that? Time will tell.
I have read that the town of New Haven wants Winchester out. And that the manufacturing costs in the States are to high for them to compete in the Industry.
It all started last year when they announced that the 9422 was at it's end and would not be produced after 2005-2006. We should have seen the light come on then.
I do like my Winchester rifles and it would be a sad thing to see the manufacturing of them end.
Guys, I honestly think we're jumping the gun.
Winchester and Winchester ammo have been separate for a long time, and just because they're selling the plant doesnt mean we're going to see the last of winchester. Companies sometimes do things that seem ubsurd, but often there is a reason. Notice its the union doing all the talking???
Its called union scare tactics to push a sale, or rally public support.
If you look at the history or winchester in the last 50 years, this is really nothing new IMHO. Maybe this recent issue will effect us positively. If Winchester is going to reorganize, it will likely mean more attractive prices in the next few years, and some clearance on older stock. Maybe their tooling is outdated this pushing the cost of production up causing this. Maybe moving it offshore with newer technology equipment and destreaming the production process will improve their product, and if it is Japan, they do make some quality and affordable firearms.
Winchester and Winchester ammo have been separate for a long time, and just because they're selling the plant doesnt mean we're going to see the last of winchester. Companies sometimes do things that seem ubsurd, but often there is a reason. Notice its the union doing all the talking???
Its called union scare tactics to push a sale, or rally public support.
If you look at the history or winchester in the last 50 years, this is really nothing new IMHO. Maybe this recent issue will effect us positively. If Winchester is going to reorganize, it will likely mean more attractive prices in the next few years, and some clearance on older stock. Maybe their tooling is outdated this pushing the cost of production up causing this. Maybe moving it offshore with newer technology equipment and destreaming the production process will improve their product, and if it is Japan, they do make some quality and affordable firearms.
I agree, the Winchester name alone is too valuable an asset to see the sun set on it. This industry goes through phases like this - look at armalite for instance.
The question really becomes product licensing and build quality. If the wrong licensee comes along and makes hash of the product line, they'll ruin the quality name. However, I don't think means the end of Winchester, or its classic line.
The question really becomes product licensing and build quality. If the wrong licensee comes along and makes hash of the product line, they'll ruin the quality name. However, I don't think means the end of Winchester, or its classic line.
Its a sad day. Won't be the same if they produce the line in Japan. Browning sure hasn't it! BTW...New Haven most definitely doesn't want USRAC to leave their city...that means the loss of 200+ jobs, along with millions in lost taxes.
I'm glad I bought my new Model 9422 last fall, now maybe its time to go pick up that new Model 70 I've been wanting....
I'm glad I bought my new Model 9422 last fall, now maybe its time to go pick up that new Model 70 I've been wanting....
Maybe they finally realized they cant keep milking the reputation thay had 40 years ago.
They havent exactly been producing top quality rifles for a while, yet they still ask top dollar for thier product. If it turns out they are gone, it will be sad but not suprising to me.
They havent exactly been producing top quality rifles for a while, yet they still ask top dollar for thier product. If it turns out they are gone, it will be sad but not suprising to me.
- Location
- Central; Alberta
While this is very dissapointing, the quality is very poor on the recent M70's. I am sure that it will appear in some form or another. I just hope BETTER than the latest editions.
I am glad to own M70s made in the 30's 50's 60's 70's 80's 90's and 2005
BR
I am glad to own M70s made in the 30's 50's 60's 70's 80's 90's and 2005
BR
