I am looking for a hunting rifle for my buddy and my boy to share. I found a model 100 Winchester in .308 that is interesting but I know nothing about them at all. What are they worth, from the googling I see the accuracy is decent enough but I don't want to over pay the guy.
WInchester model 100 value
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I paid $350 for mine, make sure it had the "firing pin mod" done. Normally there will be a stamp on the underside of the bolt. The firing pin had the tendency to break in half and jam in the pin hole causing a fixed firing pin and cause the rifle to go full auto. I had to do mine myself (easy to do) but the part was no charge by the seller.
My model 100 is a good shooter in decent good shape. You have to keep the piston clean for reliability.
I would'nt pay more than $400 unless its in top shape (unfired or what have you).
Here's a vid on disassembly that may help'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJS8_XVfB_s
;and firing pin info link: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Defective_firing_pin_mod_100_Winchester_smi_auto
My model 100 is a good shooter in decent good shape. You have to keep the piston clean for reliability.
I would'nt pay more than $400 unless its in top shape (unfired or what have you).
Here's a vid on disassembly that may help'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJS8_XVfB_s
;and firing pin info link: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Defective_firing_pin_mod_100_Winchester_smi_auto
Short answer $450. to $550. depending on condition of course. I just looked through this months Access to Firearms to confirm the above. This is for .308 which is the very common calibre. I have bought 4 over the years and paid in the above price ranges. If you can get it for less and sometimes you can it's a bonus. They retailed for $199.99 in the early 70's when Winchester stopped production.
There was firing pin recall on these guns about 15 yrs ago in which Winchester replaced the firing pin and related pins. This was a saftey issue. Apparently some guns have an extra mark beside there serial # if Winchester replaced it.
But the ones (6) I took to the factory in Couburg were not marked in any way. So the only way to tell for sure is ask the present owner if it was done or have it taken apart and look.
Warning do not attempt to strip it down yourself to look as it requires total disassembly of the gun. M-100's are tricky to take apart and even trickier to get back together. Have a gunsmith do it if need be.
Some other M-100 facts: basket weave pressed checkering it is a post 64, cut checkering is a pre 64
If it has no checkering with a short barrel and barrel band it is a post 64 carbine model and worth more than the above prices. Also other calibres other than .308 command higher prices.
If you can possibly separate the stock from the action/barrel and get a look at the gas system for rust that would be a good idea. Some of the guns have steel gas system parts which are prone to rusting others had stainless parts to help avoid this issue.
To separate it from the stock take out the screw behind the trigger guard and the one at the fore end of the stock that has the sling swival also on it. Then pull the bolt slide back and push the fore stock and barrel apart. You can not separate the two with out pulling back the bolt slide.
A look see with the stock off will give you a good idea of the condition of things and how it was maintained.
The clips are pricy so if it comes with an extra clip thats a $$$ bonus.
I have hunted/owned a M-100 for 44 yrs. There are 5 of them in my hunt camp. We have a cleaning session at my place for all of them every year.
There was firing pin recall on these guns about 15 yrs ago in which Winchester replaced the firing pin and related pins. This was a saftey issue. Apparently some guns have an extra mark beside there serial # if Winchester replaced it.
But the ones (6) I took to the factory in Couburg were not marked in any way. So the only way to tell for sure is ask the present owner if it was done or have it taken apart and look.
Warning do not attempt to strip it down yourself to look as it requires total disassembly of the gun. M-100's are tricky to take apart and even trickier to get back together. Have a gunsmith do it if need be.
Some other M-100 facts: basket weave pressed checkering it is a post 64, cut checkering is a pre 64
If it has no checkering with a short barrel and barrel band it is a post 64 carbine model and worth more than the above prices. Also other calibres other than .308 command higher prices.
If you can possibly separate the stock from the action/barrel and get a look at the gas system for rust that would be a good idea. Some of the guns have steel gas system parts which are prone to rusting others had stainless parts to help avoid this issue.
To separate it from the stock take out the screw behind the trigger guard and the one at the fore end of the stock that has the sling swival also on it. Then pull the bolt slide back and push the fore stock and barrel apart. You can not separate the two with out pulling back the bolt slide.
A look see with the stock off will give you a good idea of the condition of things and how it was maintained.
The clips are pricy so if it comes with an extra clip thats a $$$ bonus.
I have hunted/owned a M-100 for 44 yrs. There are 5 of them in my hunt camp. We have a cleaning session at my place for all of them every year.
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Assuming good condition and post-64, I would say $350-$375. Pre-64 in better shape maybe $425. Nobody should be paying anybody above $450 for one of these. Maybe a dealer will ask that but that is ridiculous given that they sit on the EE for months at lower prices. They are not in high demand but they do have a following. They are classic rifles but keep them clean. If you are not prepared to keep them clean, then get a different gun. If it's his first rifle I suggest looking into the model 88. Same caliber, same look, except no risk of jamming. These guns are known jammers. The loyals will tell you they don't jam if you keep them clean but I can tell you from experience that they jam. Even though I really do love this rifle and wish I could own one...they jam. Instead, I have a closet full of 88s. These guns need to be kept clean and they are a nightmare to take apart and reassemble. If you are not willing to clean this gun after every time you carry it, then don't buy one. As has been mentioned, make sure the firing pin has been done (I believe you can call Winchester on this one) and try to get it for $350-$375. Good luck.
This is why I like being a member on this site!! Thanks guys this has been super informative for me. I will give it a very good once over and see what it looks like. I am also looking at his ENfield Mrk 4 that is still in full wood congiguration and complete. Maybe I can get a package deal for them both if he is up to deal. Thanks again!!!!!!
HEY...keep it down...we have 5 100s in our camp that don't have a jam problem & we don't want them to hear about it!
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Two in my camp, both .308 and I never heard talk or seen any jamming issues with them. I usually see them sell for $350-$500
I've had a half dozen 100's over time, all 308, most were regular jammers. this may have been my own fault (non reg cleaning)! I wish I could have fallen in love with one of them, but I didn't, so subsequently they are all long gone. Quite often I see them advertised for prices ranging from $450. - $650. I don't know where those $300 ones are! If I saw one, I just might be willing to try one again!
RememberTheSomme
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I have had two M100s, both in .284, and kept the carbine in .284Win. I have only put 5 boxes(100rds) through it in 20 years. No jams. Not sure what winchester did to accomodate the shorter barrel and gas impulse difference in the carbine versus rifle. Sometimes reducing barrel lenght with same size gas hole will cause short stroking.
I'm wondering if gas piston corrosion may be a culprit in these being caused by neglect because of the difficulty in access and in cleaning these parts. A corroded piston in this type closed system would be a bastard.
I always thought the gas system was similar to my M-14, which can be readily cleaned.
One thing I will say about the M100. When it comes to balance, appearance, it has the Remington beat. I love my M7400 as well but as already stated it is like a club compared to the perfect balance of the M100.
Everywhere I read of Remingtons jamming. I have owned several since 1983 and have zero issues with the design either, but being a direct gas system there is no piston to corrode or foul.
As L'il surfer stated, there is no high demand for these but a small following. I can see .308 Rifle in excellent+ condition going for475-575, but I would ant to pay only 500 max..
The carbines are more desirable to the following, with the .284 being the rarest of the rare with only 917 made drom 1967-1971.
I traded my M100 .284 Rifle several years ago, and was alotted 625$ on trade. It was mint.
Again 95 % were in .308, so a .243 or .284 will bring a little higher prices. If it's a carbine snap it up. You won't be disappointed.
I'm wondering if gas piston corrosion may be a culprit in these being caused by neglect because of the difficulty in access and in cleaning these parts. A corroded piston in this type closed system would be a bastard.
I always thought the gas system was similar to my M-14, which can be readily cleaned.
One thing I will say about the M100. When it comes to balance, appearance, it has the Remington beat. I love my M7400 as well but as already stated it is like a club compared to the perfect balance of the M100.
Everywhere I read of Remingtons jamming. I have owned several since 1983 and have zero issues with the design either, but being a direct gas system there is no piston to corrode or foul.
As L'il surfer stated, there is no high demand for these but a small following. I can see .308 Rifle in excellent+ condition going for475-575, but I would ant to pay only 500 max..
The carbines are more desirable to the following, with the .284 being the rarest of the rare with only 917 made drom 1967-1971.
I traded my M100 .284 Rifle several years ago, and was alotted 625$ on trade. It was mint.
Again 95 % were in .308, so a .243 or .284 will bring a little higher prices. If it's a carbine snap it up. You won't be disappointed.
I bought a post 64 on the EE this summer for $400. When I took it to the range it jammed every second shot with Federal ammo. I thought it was a jamomatic but as soon as I switched to Winchester ammo I haven't had any feeding issues at all. Took a deer with it this year and like it so much I sold my Reminton 760. For take down instructions go to YouTube it's not that bad.
