Winchester Model 70 Extreme SS Accuracy Question

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Anyone have any experience with the accuracy of these out of the box. I am going to purchase a 7-08 and have been debating the Sako/Tikka MOA guarantee with the Winny Extreme SS. I was tricked by the MOA Trigger System logo, thinking that Winchester was guaranteeing MOA...alas it's a clever marketing ploy. Having said that, the features on the Winny lead me to believe that it would be a shooter. Anyone have first hand experience. And do the Sako's and Tikka's always show up shooting MOA?
 
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Anyone have any experience with the accuracy of these out of the box. I am going to purchase a 7-08 and have been debating the Sako/Tikka MOA guarantee with the Winny Extreme SS. I was tricked by the MOA Trigger System logo, thinking that Winchester was guaranteeing MOA...alas it's a clever marketing ploy. Having said that, the features on the Winny lead me to believe that it would be a shooter. Anyone have first hand experience. And do the Sako's and Tikka's always show up shooting MOA?
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OUt of the rifles you mentioned , if its in your budget i couldnt get my money out fast enough for the Sako. Arguably the best factory action on the market. I have actually not shot the new winchesters. But my friend manage a sporting good store and bought one in 300win mag. Shoots moa all day. Im not a Tikka fan but the guy i hunt with swears by his and dummies bucks ever time he pulls the trigger.

Summary , i would take the sako or the win but , I doubt youll be dissapointed with any of them. Pretty solid list of rifles.
 
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I've got 3 friends with the M70 extreme rifles. 300WSM and 7-08 were good out of the box, the 300WM is new and has had poor results but only tried one brand of crappy factory ammo, so I'll reserve judgement until we run some handloads through it. Nice rifles though.
 
My dad has a m70 extreme in 325 wsm. Best I've been able to get is about 2" at 100yrds with hand loads.

I have a m70 sporter in .338 win mag which will consistently group .5 to .75 at 100yrds.

Most comments I have read here tend to speak very favorably of the accuracy of the , new m70. I too still think quite highly of the rifles, but feel somewhat slightly less positive after having convinced my father to buy his. I still have not given up on the SS extreme, I'm hoping to try afew more types of bullets and to find one which it likes. The one thing I don't like about the extreme is that the combination of 8mm bore for the 325 and flutes make for a VERY thin barrel. I have convinced myself that this is contributing to the accuracy challenges, but have no real basis in fact for my opinion. I suspect the 7mm would not have the same challenges, but you may want to check.

Even if I cannot get the rifle to shoot better than 2", my dad still loves the gun and the 5x5 whitetail he shot this year at 200 yards thought the gun was plenty accurate.
 
I have two of the newer M-70's both will consistantly shoot 1" groups with my handloads, and at times a bit better. I have no experience with a Sako but I hear they are also fine rifles. My best advice is to choose the brand you like the best and Iam sure it will meet your expectations as long as those expectations are reasonable. Keep in mind it dosen't matter what brand you buy, like anything you can always get a bad apple.
 
I had one in 325 , the all weather ss, and it was a good sub-MOA shooter. I dont think you'll be disappointed!
I ended up making a custom 325 out of the action, new barrel and stock, and its my go-to gun.
 
I have an EW in 300 wsm. It is exceptionally accurate with numerous different bullet types and weights as well as powders. "Fireforming" my brass to weigh/sort/prep it with 150gr round nose hornady, thrown charges (mid level 4064 charge, not individually weighed), brass straight out of the bag (screwdriver used to make the necks more round) handful of old primers from the bottom of the rubbermaid tub (210s, 215s winchester, rem 91/2 etc) and then varying bullet seating depth due to different resistance of oval necks and no chamfer, I shot several .5 to .75 inch 3 shots groups with those loads at 100m.

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Of the 3 you mentioned I would buy the EW. Sako is overpriced. If you want a sako look for a used s/s m75 model. They come up on the EE now and again. For the price of a new sako you can buy the EW and put a mcmillan on it and have a way better package than the sako.
 
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Thanks all of you. I have heard some unexpectedly negative comments on the Tikka's saying that apart from the barrel and action they were cheaply assembled...kind of weird considering their reputation as a whole. Sako is expensive but at this time I pretty much just want my forever hunting rifle to spending a little more is all right. I love the WE, the Bell and Carlson stock sounds amazing, I'm just not into buying a rifle new and having to send it for smithing on my my dollar if it won't shoot.
 
One of my hunting partners picked up an extreme weather in 3006 a couple of years ago. It shot well with Federal blue box 180's. After we tuned the trigger on a bench rest it will consistently do ragged holes at 100 yards with a Bushnell 3-9 3200.

I would not hesitate to buy one.
 
I had one in 308, sold it to another gun nut, It was very accurate out of the box. I used the federal 150 gr ammo in the blue box and shot 3/8" 3 shot groups at 100 yards and 5/8" groups at 200 yards. I never bothered to work up any hand loads for it, I dont think I could have beat that. I dont know if they are all like that one but mine shot pretty sweet.
 
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Thanks all of you. I have heard some unexpectedly negative comments on the Tikka's saying that apart from the barrel and action they were cheaply assembled...kind of weird considering their reputation as a whole. Sako is expensive but at this time I pretty much just want my forever hunting rifle to spending a little more is all right. I love the WE, the Bell and Carlson stock sounds amazing, I'm just not into buying a rifle new and having to send it for smithing on my my dollar if it won't shoot.
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The more ive thought about this thread i have to say ... with the list of rifles you mentioned, you will not beat that Win for the money ! and with that sweat little cartridge you wanna run in it, i think it will treat you better that you exspect with some nice hand loads.

Gonna be a nice set up !
 
I've got one in 30-06 and I've been getting 1" or better with most factory ammo when I tested it.
I run handloads in all my rifles and with this rifle I get a consistent .5 to .75 groups with my handloads.
I've also replaced the MOA trigger with a new timney, I will be replacing the stock for a McMillan from d'arcy Echols because I find the factory stock to bulky for me.
I would go with the Winchester ew over the sako.
I have a friend with a sako and shot it many times, I don't care for them much, but I am also a win mod 70 fan.
But that's my opinion
 
I have a Tikka T3 in .222, a Sako 85 Finnlight in 30-06 and a Win. 70 Super Grade in 300 WSM. After some tinkering with the loads all shoot well. Not happy with the trigger in the S.G. and have been waiting for a Timney to arrive. For accuracy the Sako is the best. The S.G. is best in the looks department. Surprisingly the Tikka is a tough action. A couple of months ago I made a serious error in setting the scale for some reloads (first error of this type in over 50 years of reloading) and demolished the bolt. There may be plastic parts in there but I came away nearly unscathed.

Bottom line, all have some virtues and only the OP can decide what he wants most. As for accuracy there is no guarantee which one will be the best.

Jim
 
That Winny is really calling to me...it's a great rifle for my climate and really, when we look at what makes a rifle a shooter, most of the work has been done already...out of the box. Interesting that some found the Bell and Carlson too bulky...I'll have to see. I'm not super picky, most of my effort goes into the pre-purchase research and then I love what I've got as long as it does what it's supposed to.

Chris
 
I have one in the 300 wizzum that I love. Not too much i would change about it. Like others have said, the stock is a bit chunky, but so am I, so we get along.

I havent put alot of time in shooting for groups with it, but it has taken whatever i have fed it well, printing decent groups for makeshift rests while out practicing from field positions. Nicely balanced for offhand running shots too. I put a pair of bullets in a loping bull moose at 100 yds this fall with mine. As is the case with a good fitting rifle, everything felt natural in that shooting scenario.

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You can see the 2 bullet holes here. First shot, the moose failed to react to, so thinking i had missed, i let fly with a second, which was a bit high and clipped the underside of the spine, causing the catastrophic pile-up pictured above, as seen from my buddies viewpoint.

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