Winchester Model 94 (102 years old)

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Hi there. I have a 1913 Model 94 Winchester .30-.30. Beautiful piece that's seen it's days. Love the thing. It shoots as straight and consistently as can be, except for it's 10" high at 50 yards. The other day I was hitting a 4" gong dead-centre consistently by shooting 10" below the centre of the gong. The rear ramp-style sight is as raised as high as it goes. Is there anything that can be done or do I just compensate while shooting by aiming low to hit on the target?

Any tips / tricks?
 
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At risk of looking like a complete moron, I screwed up on what I wrote. I must have seen something shiny and gotten distracted or something... ANYWAY.... the rear sight is set as LOW as it goes. Sorry guys...
 
Might want to do some homework and see if your front and rear sights are original to the rifle. Search for some pictures. I've come across all kinds of weird stuff- Savage sights on Winchesters, front sights brazed yellow on the back, barrels cut down an inch, etc. Figure out your sight radius (distance from front sight to rear) and go to any gunshop. They would probably have a drawer of front beads lying around. Those dovetails are pretty standard. If you have trouble fitting the new one, file the bottom of the sight.
 
guntech said:
Then you require a higher front sight...
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Or a lower rear sight.....

My Rossi 92 came that way. I took the wedge out and it was STILL shooting way too high. I filed out a sideways "C" and use it sort of like an open top rear aperture sight and it's good now.

If you don't like that idea then you could file off a little from the top of the sight and then using a small flat file from a jeweler's set deepen the existing notch. If the file is too thick then run the faces on a grinder to thin it out and just use the teeth on the edge.

If it's anything like mine there will still be LOTS of elevation for long shots with the rest of the wedge.

The wedge can also be filed down. If it's holding the rear spring part off the barrel at the sight end file or grind down the flat against the barrel to lower things a little more. Once it's on the barrel then file down the sight itself.
 
Rear sight:

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Front sight:

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For gosh sakes! If you love it SO MUCH ... clean it up and get some oil on it or in a short time it will be COVERED in grundge and rust!!!!
 
Looking at the front sight , it is a SRC., that is correct sight, But that rear sight is not original to that rifle.
try to find the proper sight , which is sometimes hard to do for the old Winchesters,
Or you can do as BC rider said and file down the rear sight and deepen the V, as long as you can still
it over the top of the receiver, you will not hurt the value of the gun, as that sight is wrong.
There is parts guy in alberta, Misty Gun works, or????????????, Bruce Tauber, Castor Alb. ,That may have what
you need, but be sitting down when he gives you a price if you go that way.
Marshall, SK.
 
Looked at the picture closer - that type rear sight also has an insert that provides 4 different V cuts AND additional elevation adjustment by loosening a VERY SMALL screw on the right side of the sight face. Given the condition of the rest of the gun - slop LOTS of penetrating oil (Kroil) on the screw and let it sit for 15 mins before attempting to loosen the TINY set screw.
 
Excellent. Thanks for everyone's help. It's completely recognized that it's a project gun that needs a lot of TLC. It was what I assume to be a city of Toronto mounted police gun at one point judging by a stamp in the stock. My dad recently purchased the gun for me as a gift from a guy who had it hanging in his garage for who knows how long.

At any rate, thanks for your help.
 
Big 'ol buckhorn issue? (hope that doesn't read as condescending) Make certain of sight picture... Some folks hate 'em.

I have the world's worst display, but that looks like a Marbles rear sight and a Lyman front sight. Just checked m'ol .32Spec of the same era, and although my sights are very different, I wouldn't be able to say my sights are original (it was Grandpa's gun originally, but passed through a few hands before getting to mine) with any real authority. You should be able to get a taller front sight, or maybe even raise yours.

Although you corrected the original post, I never miss a chance to say FART (front away, rear toward where you want the bullet to go)
 
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