Hi everyone, i am new to the gunnutz. quick question and sorry if its been asked in previous threads, but i purchased about a year ago a Winchester Model 1917, was told little about it from the seller, but have been trying to do some of my own research on it. If anyone has any info on it, know of good books withh its history or even web pages anything would be much appreciated. Thanks and Happy New Year to all.
Winchester P17/Enfield 1917
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Welcome to Canadian Gunnutz, as this is just your second posting.
Actually, members on here are happy to answer questions directly, member to member, although some postings may seem to put this in doubt.
The USA entered World War One late and were short of rifles. They couldn't make their Springfields fast enough, so Britain allowed them to slightly change their 303 P14 rifles, to the US 30-06.
The new version was called the US Model of 1917. It was made by Wichester, as well as Remington, in their plant in Eddystone, Penn. It is a very good rifle, as is in 30-06. A bit heavier than some hunters want, but it is built like the proverbial brick outhouse.
Thus, it is common to build custom rifles on the action.
Actually, members on here are happy to answer questions directly, member to member, although some postings may seem to put this in doubt.
The USA entered World War One late and were short of rifles. They couldn't make their Springfields fast enough, so Britain allowed them to slightly change their 303 P14 rifles, to the US 30-06.
The new version was called the US Model of 1917. It was made by Wichester, as well as Remington, in their plant in Eddystone, Penn. It is a very good rifle, as is in 30-06. A bit heavier than some hunters want, but it is built like the proverbial brick outhouse.
Thus, it is common to build custom rifles on the action.
P-17 by Winchester
Welcome to Gunnutz.
If you want a book on the P-17 look around for a book by Ian Skennerton
"The US Enfield" ISBN # 0 949749 02 8 I have the 1983 edition. Good book I don't know of any new books on the P-14 & P-17
I usually look at the Abebooks site for a ball park dollar figure and availability of books.
Welcome to Gunnutz.
If you want a book on the P-17 look around for a book by Ian Skennerton
"The US Enfield" ISBN # 0 949749 02 8 I have the 1983 edition. Good book I don't know of any new books on the P-14 & P-17
I usually look at the Abebooks site for a ball park dollar figure and availability of books.
The U.S. Model of 1917 Winchester is a Model 1917 Enfield Military Rifle manufactured from 1917 - 1918, in this case, by the Winchester Repeating Arms Company of New Haven CT.
It is a modified Mauser-type bolt action rifle chambered in 30-06. It has a 26� barrel, 5-shot box magazine, adjustable rear site, and blade front site, supported by a military type stock with a semi-pistol grip. Weight is 9.25 pounds.
It was designed after the English .303 caliber P14 Enfield (Pattern 14) that was being manufactured in the U.S at the time for the British government by three gun U.S. manufacturers: Winchester Repeating Arms Company of New Haven CT, Remington Arms Company of Ilion NY, and Remington Arms Company of DE (actually located in Eddystone PA, later the Midvale Steel & Ordnance Company).
The Remington Model 30 is a US sporting rifle of the inter-war period based on the military P14/M1917 Enfield rifle action, which was manufactured for the British and US governments during World War I.[1][2] Initial specimens used surplus military parts with some modifications in order to consume the stock of parts, though further modifications were made as production progressed and later rifles were produced from newly manufactured parts. Most early rifles were in the military .30-06 calibre used in the M1917 but it became available in a variety of chamberings. It was the first high-powered bolt-action sporting rifle produced by Remington.
In 1917, the U.S. Government contracted with these three firms to manufacture the same rifle for the U.S. armed forces, only chambered in 30-06. Over 2 million were produced, with the majority surplused (not distributed for service). None were made after WWI, but the U.S. later supplied over 1 million of this surplus of these rifles to Britain during WWII.
It is a modified Mauser-type bolt action rifle chambered in 30-06. It has a 26� barrel, 5-shot box magazine, adjustable rear site, and blade front site, supported by a military type stock with a semi-pistol grip. Weight is 9.25 pounds.
It was designed after the English .303 caliber P14 Enfield (Pattern 14) that was being manufactured in the U.S at the time for the British government by three gun U.S. manufacturers: Winchester Repeating Arms Company of New Haven CT, Remington Arms Company of Ilion NY, and Remington Arms Company of DE (actually located in Eddystone PA, later the Midvale Steel & Ordnance Company).
The Remington Model 30 is a US sporting rifle of the inter-war period based on the military P14/M1917 Enfield rifle action, which was manufactured for the British and US governments during World War I.[1][2] Initial specimens used surplus military parts with some modifications in order to consume the stock of parts, though further modifications were made as production progressed and later rifles were produced from newly manufactured parts. Most early rifles were in the military .30-06 calibre used in the M1917 but it became available in a variety of chamberings. It was the first high-powered bolt-action sporting rifle produced by Remington.
In 1917, the U.S. Government contracted with these three firms to manufacture the same rifle for the U.S. armed forces, only chambered in 30-06. Over 2 million were produced, with the majority surplused (not distributed for service). None were made after WWI, but the U.S. later supplied over 1 million of this surplus of these rifles to Britain during WWII.
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The US also sent the P17 to Canada under Lend-Lease and these rifles were used by home guard units. The fore stock was painted red to notify that it was the 30-06 Enfield and not 303 British. I bought one of those last year. Look for the C-broad arrow ( a C with an arrow inside) and red paint in the crevices of the stock.
The P-17 is an outstanding rifle and usually quite accurate if in good condition. There are also quite a few that have been sporterized throughout the years by Remington (Model 30 and Model 720) , and BSA out of England. Mine is a BSA model B , and it out-shoots a lot of modern rifles.
I started a thread on here about customizing these rifles, its in the Hunting and sporting arms section. Have a look, there are some nice ones !
I started a thread on here about customizing these rifles, its in the Hunting and sporting arms section. Have a look, there are some nice ones !
