Winchester Pre/64 Mod. 70

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Why do American's covet these rifles so much? The prices in the States are like 3-5 times the prices they go for here.
 
Considered a better action, and made in the USA, went to Japan sometime after '64. I too prefer the pre-64 action, they simplified the post actions. The new "classic" models like the Classic Featherweight utilize the pre-64 action design, I had one in .308 gorgeous and smooth rifles.
 
Ardent said:
Considered a better action, and made in the USA, went to Japan sometime after '64.

The Model 70 was never built in Japan.

In 2 years however I will bet we are going to see a pile of Model 70's and '94's built in Japan. Model 70's built with Browning quality are sure to be a winner.
 
Ardent said:
Considered a better action, and made in the USA, went to Japan sometime after '64. I too prefer the pre-64 action, they simplified the post actions. The new "classic" models like the Classic Featherweight utilize the pre-64 action design, I had one in .308 gorgeous and smooth rifles.
Japan??
 
Ardent said:
Considered a better action, and made in the USA, went to Japan sometime after '64. I too prefer the pre-64 action, they simplified the post actions. The new "classic" models like the Classic Featherweight utilize the pre-64 action design, I had one in .308 gorgeous and smooth rifles.
Better action? What were they comparing it to?
 
There is a lot of nostalgia in the US. The pre-64 was a superbe rifle before WW II, and a decent rifle into the late '50's but the quality was slipping. They do not handle gas from blown primers very well--one of the things that was improved on the later "classic" versions. Most had good barrels and shot well but the standard rifle was fairly heavy--reason the featherweight version was brought out. Collectors love them because there are many models, grades, calibers to collect and original rifles are becoming very scarce.

I have had all 3 versions, pre-64, post 64 and classic and I prefer the latter for hunting rifles.

FWIW, 44Bore.
 
They were an expensive rifle to make. There was a fair bit of hand fitting. But they were very reliable. The post 64 had better barrels BTW. As far as the design goes the "classic" was ,as mentioned ,had/has better at gas handling. The steel in the pre-war Remingtons M-30 was of better quality.
 
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In 2 years however I will bet we are going to see a pile of Model 70's and '94's built in Japan. Model 70's built with Browning quality are sure to be a winner.[/QUOTE]

Amen to that brother:D
bigbull
 
[QUOTE='Boo]The Model 70 was never built in Japan.

In 2 years however I will bet we are going to see a pile of Model 70's and '94's built in Japan. Model 70's built with Browning quality are sure to be a winner.[/QUOTE] As long as they are mod.70's and not a reworked A-Bolt.
 
Win/64 said:
Why do American's covet these rifles so much? The prices in the States are like 3-5 times the prices they go for here.

I have two of them and they both are considerably more accuate than my new A bolt or my Rem 700. ( all in 30/06)
 
Win/64 said:
Why do American's covet these rifles so much? The prices in the States are like 3-5 times the prices they go for here.

Americans are frequently insane when it comes to ANYTHING with the flying red "W" on it.
 
There's Beauty In Simplicity

I own pre-64 M70's, in original condition, and looking for more. Everybody
probably has their favourite brand and type of rifle; mine just happens to be
the pre-64 M70. They are a quality rifle that doesn't need bells and whistles to attract the eye. The pre-64 M70 represents a High Point in American Gun
Manufacturing. The stock design,three position safety, smooth adjustable trigger, control round feeding, coned shaped breech for smooth action, hinged floorplate make up a rifle that is a extremely reliable, a pleasure to shoot and delivers consistant accuracy. There is not one thing I would change.

I heard said they are too heavy, but not for me; a good sling makes carrying a breeze. If you find they are too heavy, the feather weight is the one for you. Same action with a lighter barrel and stock with an aluminum floorplate and trigger guard.

Anyway, if any of you have one you want to sell, please send me a PM.
 
Pre-64 M70

Picked up a nice 1954 vintage Model 70 in .300 H&H recently. I cant wait to get it home and install the Leupold on it. Only other Pre-64 M70 I had was a 1947 made .270WCF with Griffin&Howe side-mounted Lyman Alaskan (post+crosshair) scope. Sold it about 15 years ago for $800, was a heavy beast.
Geoff in Victoria
 
Am I hearing suggestions that the "new" Japanese-made model 70 will be a better action/rifle than the American made M70's.

Why do you think that is/will be?
 
My pre64 is a 243 std. rifle. The front sight removed and the rifle has been reblued. Still a real nice rifle being 50 years old this year.
I would like to find a 270 featherweight in good condition.
257 Roberts
 
Rod said:
I own pre-64 M70's, in original condition, and looking for more. Everybody
probably has their favourite brand and type of rifle; mine just happens to be
the pre-64 M70. They are a quality rifle that doesn't need bells and whistles to attract the eye. The pre-64 M70 represents a High Point in American Gun
Manufacturing. The stock design,three position safety, smooth adjustable trigger, control round feeding, coned shaped breech for smooth action, hinged floorplate make up a rifle that is a extremely reliable, a pleasure to shoot and delivers consistant accuracy. There is not one thing I would change.

I heard said they are too heavy, but not for me; a good sling makes carrying a breeze. If you find they are too heavy, the feather weight is the one for you. Same action with a lighter barrel and stock with an aluminum floorplate and trigger guard.

Anyway, if any of you have one you want to sell, please send me a PM.
I agree with everything you say except stock design. The older ones are basically useless when it comes to scope mounting.
 
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