Winchester Super X Model 1 Value and a parts question?

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It may be the extractor plunger but I suspect it's a plunger from down inside the trigger group...I'll double check the part when I can access my laptop. Your gun is an early 1974 field gun. I can't tell from the pic but it looks like it has a plain barrel. Those only lasted till 1975 if I remember correctly and then were dropped from production. The vent rib barrels were the only offering from 1976 onward. They also made a SX1 deer gun with a 24" rifle sight barrel, made from the left over plain barrels in inventory. Those deer barrels still retain the original choke designation even though they are actually a cylinder bore. Winchester roll stamped "Deer Slug" under the typical barrel markings. The Super-X Model 1 is currently Canada's best kept secret in the shotgun world!!! South of the border they command a premium today, especially the skeet and trap guns that have fancier wood! Your gun if it has a plain barrel would fetch up to $400 to the right person if it has an improved cylinder or modified choke. If it's a full $350-375. The vent rib models are $400-475 and skeet or trap up to $850 if the owner actually knows what he has or finds an honest and willing buyer. The first thing to do with a SX1 is to replace the bolt buffer in the rear of the reciever before firing it. It is a must do!!!! The old buffer is brittle as glass and will shatter without fail and will result is the reciever and bolt getting pretty badly beaten up. I'll post a couple pics of my Deer gun and one of my Trap guns later!
 
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Newby, that is the bolt buffer failing. Buy a new one or two from Stu Wright in Illinois. Also buy a tune up kit. Look at the mag tube for rust and pitting where the gas system contacts it. You can flip them around. They need to be wiped down in that area after each use. Great guns.
 
Beretta687EELL said:
Newby, that is the bolt buffer failing. Buy a new one or two from Stu Wright in Illinois. Also buy a tune up kit. Look at the mag tube for rust and pitting where the gas system contacts it. You can flip them around. They need to be wiped down in that area after each use. Great guns.
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If I am going through the trouble to remove a mag tube ( which is a pain on some ) a better quality chrome plated or they have stainless ones now would be going back in rather than the flip. Been a while since I did one but I thought the threads were also not run up as far as required on one end compared to the other so would not seat in the receiver correctly
Cheers
 
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If you phone Wright's in Illinois Stu Wright will guide you through the proper way to change your mag tube. There is actually a proper measured seating distance for the mag tubes to be screwed into place for the guns to cycle properly. And yes the mag tube can be flipped around on them. You can get a tune up kit from Wrights that comes with a stainless mag tube. The best thing I ever did with the SX1 I have is buy that tune up kit. Best $125 spent on that gun. As long as youre changing the bolt buffer too you might as well swap the rebound plunger and rebound spring as well. The original is a real light aluminum and shreds in no time due to the rebound spring being weak from age. The plunger from Wrights is stainless steel and the spring is much heavier than the original. My gun never has a hiccup since buying that kit. What amazes me most about the SX1 is the number available for sale for a gun that was only produced from '74 - '78 with less than 90,000 made!! I sure wish they had made them in a 20ga!! If you go onto Shotgunworld in the Winchester lovers forum there are some great sticky tutorials by a couple gunsmiths specializing in SX1's on how to tear down, clean, replace parts etc with lots of good photos and instructions.
 
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Thanks Spank for the clarification :) I bought all of my parts from Mr. Super X they called him at the time Bob Baumgart who passed probally more than 10 years ago. We would send triggers etc down for him to work on in the days I could send it in the mail and he would send it back done with zero paperwork and no laws broken. I bought enough to still have a stash but my buffers are the second year design plastic ones which are normally good for 50,000 or so rounds
I have never flipped a tube to save a few pennies vs buying a new one in chrome or stainless
Still had seven or eight of these when I joined the site just a couple of years back but sold some here etc and kept four including a miss flyway, two skeet and a trap.
Many say winchester produced two proto type 20ga and I remember seeing pics of one on display. Others say they were conversions that Ray something or other a gunsmith in the US was doing
Would have been nice if they did. I remember when I bought my 10ga gold when it first came out in the early 90;s and took it apart
Man oh man someone sure used the old superx1 designs as a basis for this gun
Cheers
 
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Wife is right I probally do need mental help sometimes my back ground and a A type personality is scary
The thread length was driving me nuts so I had to go dig one out. Good new was the box of parts was right where I put it maybe 14 or 15 years ago since that would have been when I did the last one
On the original there is a one thread length difference 7 on one side and 6 on the other which with the heavy pitch could make a difference on installation which is probally why as you state Spank they use a defined depth for installation
God know's how today's replacements are threaded and this one was labeled as out of a 1st year field gun
I'm Ok now :) and time to take mama for her coffee and sorry for the poor pic but mama has the camera's and talent here not me with my vintage Kodak easy share
Cheers
 
One thing to note with the Wrights tune up kits is that the action/rebound spring has a heavier compression rate than the original factory spec. You will loose light load reliability by using the Wrights replacement. On my trap and skeet guns I'm still using the factory originals and the guns cycle 3/4oz @1200fps to 1oz @1200fps with outmost reliability. Most of the Wrights equipped guns I've seen start having hiccups with 1oz @ 1200fps loads. Just something to keep in mind.
 
VLT79 said:
One thing to note with the Wrights tune up kits is that the action/rebound spring has a heavier compression rate than the original factory spec. You will loose light load reliability by using the Wrights replacement. On my trap and skeet guns I'm still using the factory originals and the guns cycle 3/4oz @1200fps to 1oz @1200fps with outmost reliability. Most of the Wrights equipped guns I've seen start having hiccups with 1oz @ 1200fps loads. Just something to keep in mind.
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What if ... you cut off a couple of loops from the spring?
 
That may be the case with the standard field model barrels but not so with the dedicated skeet & trap barrels which were made with larger diameter gas ports. The dedicated target barrels were made that way to allow for more gas to be used for cycling light loads. Mine spits out 2 3/4 dram 1 1/8 oz loads without issue with the new rebound spring and follower. I also put the heavier trigger spring the kit came with and it definitely works well with the firing pin striking sure and hard.
 
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Thanks Spank for the clarification :) I bought all of my parts from Mr. Super X they called him at the time Bob Baumgart who passed probally more than 10 years ago. We would send triggers etc down for him to work on in the days I could send it in the mail and he would send it back done with zero paperwork and no laws broken. I bought enough to still have a stash but my buffers are the second year design plastic ones which are normally good for 50,000 or so rounds
I have never flipped a tube to save a few pennies vs buying a new one in chrome or stainless
Still had seven or eight of these when I joined the site just a couple of years back but sold some here etc and kept four including a miss flyway, two skeet and a trap.
Many say winchester produced two proto type 20ga and I remember seeing pics of one on display. Others say they were conversions that Ray something or other a gunsmith in the US was doing
Would have been nice if they did. I remember when I bought my 10ga gold when it first came out in the early 90;s and took it apart
Man oh man someone sure used the old superx1 designs as a basis for this gun
Cheers
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I had an early 90's Gold 10 as well and thought the same thing. Stu Wright tells me the SX1 and Gold 10 were designed by the same person. I saw a Miss Flyway for sale on the EE about a year ago. I should have bought it. :(
 
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