Hello i just bought a Winchester super x model 1 the other day and after doing a thorough inspection i found the recoil buffer is falling apart. A common problem with his shotgun i am looking to get anouther one does any one know were i could get one in Canada? I found someone who can ship it out of the states but its expensive.
Winchester super x model 1
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gunsaholic
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Try Western Gun Parts in Edmonton
DeadeyeDave
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I got one from Western Gun Parts several years ago. If I remember right it was darn near $50 by the time it was shipped.
Beretta687EELL
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If you are going to shoot this gun a bunch, get a tune up kit and some spare o-rings ... makes a huge difference in how the gun operates. 40 year old springs get weak. The Spank knows. I buy my Super X parts from Wrights.
Wright's is about the only place you'll get a good quality bolt buffer and it's worth the money as it will last aprox 40000rds. Just about every other company that offers one, offers a product that is made of a brittle material that won't hold up! The best test it to place the replacement buffer on the bench and whack it with a hammer...if it breaks, it was not good enough to go into the gun! Springs are available from many sources...no better, no worse than Wrights. O-rings can be purchased at Napa for a fraction of what a gun shop sells them for. If you're gun is a low to mid serial number and hasn't been used much it will likely still have a blued mag tube. If so, they are prone to corrosion if not cleaned after every outing. The later guns had a chrome plated or stainless mag tube that wasn't as susceptible...but the piston head, sleeve and rings still are. Just clean the gun and corrosion becomes a non issue. Early guns also had the vent-rib held in place with an Allen screw at the tip of the barrel. The screw can loosen and eventually the rib will shear it off as it slides forward under recoil. Best to remove the screw clean it and the hole in the rib/barrel and apply a drop of red locktite before re-assembly. If there's no screw you have the late style soldered rib and don't need to worry about it. Barrels...the 30" full choke field barrels may not cycle light loads very well due to the small gas ports. Those can be drilled out to a larger diameter by a gunsmith. The early guns with "stage 1" trigger (serrated trigger shoe vs smooth on stage 3) have a screw to adjust take up...if you mess with it put a drop of blue locktite on the threads or it can back out and break. The original rebound follower is a poor design. Wright's offers a better replacement, although I've found that you can drill the original a bit deeper and it lasts quite a few thousand rounds more before it fails. Other than that there's not much else to be aware of with these guns...they are the best semi-auto ever built IMHO and today, make the absolute best target shotguns after a little tune up!
Not much I can add to this, well written and factual, other to agree that the SX-1 is an extremely good auto loader. The great down fall of the SX-1 was it's high manufacturing cost. All those solid steel machined parts are expensive to make and Winchester just could not afford to sell these guns in the same price range as a Remington 1100 which was basically made from all stamped pressed parts.
I bought my SX-1 when they fist hit the market in 1974. I bought one of first SX-1's Epps got in the store. I finally replaced the buffer of which you speak, but other than clean it after every use ( I was an avid duck hunter) I have never done anything to the gun except shoot it. I have zero corrosion in mine. I have never replaced an "0" ring, but I have several spares as a just in case. I probably have 40K+ rounds down the barrel. I made the mistake years ago of putting a poly choke on the original 30" FC barrel. Hated the thing. So I bought a new 28" mod barrel. I took the original barrel cut it off at 18" removed the rib posts. Polished it all up nice finishing with emery cloth. Soldiered on a set of Remington Rifle sights as they are all steel. Cleaned up the sight areas and cold blued the whole thing. Beautiful slug barrel. Works like a charm. Probably the only guy anywhere with a slug barrel for an SX-1. The 1974 catalogue advertised a 20 ga. being offered as well. I have never seen or heard of one in existence and Winchester claims they never made any that were offered for sale to the public. There is a fella on CGN here from the east coast, goes by "3mac-1" he is probably the most knowledgeable fella on CGN on the subject of SX-1's. He may be of assistance to you. Also try WR Long gunsmiths out of the Cobourg Ont area. They did all the Winchester Cooey work when Winchester was still located in Cobourg, they may have parts.
This is one my SX1s with an original Winchester made slug barrel...
Rumour has it there were two prototype SX1 shotguns built in 20ga. and one of them is accounted for! I would love to see it, even if for only a second!
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This is one my SX1s with an original Winchester made slug barrel...
Rumour has it there were two prototype SX1 shotguns built in 20ga. and one of them is accounted for! I would love to see it, even if for only a second!
I would love to own it not just see it !
Good old Winchester! Look at the furniture(stock) on a field grade slug gun?! You would never see that on an 1100 slug gun! And cut checkering, not reverse pressed pattern !!
If memory serves Winchester advertised the slug gun under the name of Super X Model 1 Buck gun?
I would love to own it not just see it !
Good old Winchester! Look at the furniture(stock) on a field grade slug gun?! You would never see that on an 1100 slug gun! And cut checkering, not reverse pressed pattern !!
If memory serves Winchester advertised the slug gun under the name of Super X Model 1 Buck gun?
Winchester advertised the slug guns as the "Super-X Model 1 Deer" in 1974 and they had them listed with a 22" barrel. All genuine deer slug barrels I've seen or heard of are actually 24" in length and all were made by the factory using left over plain barrels that were discontinued in late 1975 which is why they are all bear an original choke designation and the later added "DEER SLUG".
My gun actually started life as a 30" vent rib but I found the slug barrel south of the border for a price I could not turn down and got Prophet River to import if for me. So...it isn't a genuine SX-1 Deer per say...although despite being listed, much like the 20ga version, I've never seen evidence or heard of a complete SX-1 Deer leaving the factory...no old stock NIB gun, no old box, no old hang tag! I can only assume they realized the SX-1 was going to ruin them and they decided early on to cut their losses and only offer optional barrels.
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beretta boy
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Can't confirm 2 - 20 ga. prototypes, but Pauline Muerrle, an engraver with Winchester's Custom Shop has confirmed at least one, which she saw and examined, that was in a Vault at
the New Haven facility as late as 2004 before Winchester closed down there. Presumably, anything that remained from the vault may have wound up either at Cody WY or Ogden UT.
I've also seen photos of a proto type SX-1based 20 ga converted to a pump ! Plain receiver with uncheckered stocks.
I am not up to speed today on this but back years ago when we were dealing with Bob B ( he worked on some of my Dad's superx1's ) he said there was two made and he actually handled one of them. I remember this discussion also some had with Pauline on the shotgun world forum and she did provide the serial number of one which they say is now in the Cody Museum
SXM1 20 ga. serial no. W2179 prototype
Here is the link to that conversation and if you hit the link from member field grade you will see pics of it
Cheers
http://shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=237319
Oh yes there was also some guys converting them and talk of one coming to canada. I remember the old man turning over every stone trying to find it and he was in the loop in those days but came up with nothing
Personally I think it was BS that one of the conversions landed up here
They talk about one guy here converting two
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=185635&p=1576565
SXM1 20 ga. serial no. W2179 prototype
Here is the link to that conversation and if you hit the link from member field grade you will see pics of it
Cheers
http://shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=237319
Oh yes there was also some guys converting them and talk of one coming to canada. I remember the old man turning over every stone trying to find it and he was in the loop in those days but came up with nothing
Personally I think it was BS that one of the conversions landed up here
They talk about one guy here converting two
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=185635&p=1576565
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